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  1. #11
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    Altanas's Avatar
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    Altanas Aidendale
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 70
    I've just taken the lazy approach and macro'ed them into current skills. So my hotbar placement is the same for 50 or 60, but 60 just requires an extra tap or two on certain macros.
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  2. #12
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    Onywen Fraelia
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    in WoTLK I had like 50-60 keybinds on my shadow priest. This is nothing in comparison. Love the complexity and stuff to press in every situation.

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    Last edited by Imoye; 06-27-2015 at 11:09 PM.

  3. #13
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    War Tortle
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    This just proves that you can't make everyone happy.

    Does anyone still remember people complaining about how FFXI was better because it's spell list was a lot larger?
    Gotta learm how to use macros
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  4. #14
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    Geryth Drayfore
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    Mateus
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by iWaRTuRTLeS View Post
    Gotta learm how to use macros
    Macros are by definition, and intentionally, way less effective then just using the abilities. Especially since the GCD "sweetspot" is somewhere around 2.4s as a dragoon, and macros can only space abilities apart in whole second increments.
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  5. #15
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    Vermilion Rose
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    Phantom
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    Summoner Lv 100
    If it's too hard, because it's too hard, if it's too easy, because it's too easy. If you feel overwhelmed with DRG you may want to give yourself some time until your brain can memorize whatever new rotations it has. If you don't feel capable, you can always switch to another class.
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  6. #16
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    Geryth Drayfore
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    Mateus
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rjain View Post
    Are you complaining that SE gave your job more things to do to keep things fresh? Yes some things will be an overhaul and there's a lot more to learn but it takes practice like anything else.
    More does not mean fresh. Fresh might be adding new abilities, but perhaps creating a path where you say "I'm going to use this rotation instead of that rotation". Warrior actually does this well where what you do with Defiance on is much different than what you do with it off. For Dragoon, everything is there and you use almost everything in every situation. What they did isn't "fresh", it's overwhelming.
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  7. #17
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    Geryth Drayfore
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    Mateus
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    If it's too hard, because it's too hard, if it's too easy, because it's too easy. If you feel overwhelmed with DRG you may want to give yourself some time until your brain can memorize whatever new rotations it has. If you don't feel capable, you can always switch to another class.
    I'm capable and it can be done. The issue isn't about capability, it's about fun. Memorizing 30+ abilities and having 28 keybinds and executing them in perfect order feels like work, not leisure.
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  8. #18
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    Priya Eridian
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    Leviathan
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Dear SE. Please let me keybind more things... LIKE SHIFT+NUMPAD5 ... So I can use Shift+5 on my Naga. That's all I want in life... Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fusional View Post
    i'd kinda like to give priya hugs with my mouth.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Q20: Will we ever be able to send tells from within an instanced area?

    A20: While the feature can be implemented, it’s currently masked. It’s currently masked because we would like to prevent players from harassing each other just because they know they would never party together in the future. We will continue to monitor the situation carefully as we move forward.

  9. #19
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    Ulath Skullsplitter
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    I agree 100%. The ability bloat is too much. DRG was just right before the expansion. I use controller and I now have nowhere to conveniently put all these skills. My problem isn't how to use the new skills or the complexity it adds but where to put them on the crossbar where I can use them when I need to. All the boss fights in this game are movement heavy. So the most used skills need to be on the face buttons so you are not taking your thumb off the left stick. You need to be moving and using skills at the same time. DRG also has a ton of off gcd skills to use so there's no time in between moves to stop moving to hit those on the dpad either. Or trying to switch between multiple crossbars. The only realistic way is to use L2, R2, and L2+R2. That doesn't leave you with much room on the face buttons for the 20+ skill rotation. While squeezing in over 30 skills total with the dpad too. The ability bloat has taken the fun out of drg for me.
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  10. #20
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    Vermilion Rose
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    Phantom
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Geryth View Post
    I'm capable and it can be done. The issue isn't about capability, it's about fun. Memorizing 30+ abilities and having 28 keybinds and executing them in perfect order feels like work, not leisure.
    You are overwhelmed now, but there is a learning curve, once you get familiar with the HW rotations, it will feel a lot easier. Maybe then it will become leisure, and it'll be more rewarding because you had to work hard for it.
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