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  1. #11
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    How and what exactly are you folks doing to get 3 FCs in a zerk window? I've been trying and failing idk if its my skill speed or how I'm going about it. Help appreciated
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    Kori Fleming
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    It's your SS. You need a lot more than before to do 9 hits within Berserk. If you use Casper's opener you should be able to hit 3 FCs regardless since it ends on Fracture, though one thing I'd change about their's is moving Raw Intuition to directly after the 2nd FC since that will put it on CD faster/give you 1 stack of Abandon faster.
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    Last edited by SpookyGhost; 06-27-2015 at 05:26 PM.

  3. #13
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    So how much skill speed is recommended now? I have around 550 or so I got off but can get on to check
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  4. #14
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    That's more than enough. You only need about 450~ish, but it's ping dependent. You want to activate Berserk as late in the GCD as possible to make sure you get the last hit in and hit every GCD as soon as it comes off CD. The more SS you have, the more room for error, but not much.
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    Ok thanks for the insight I will get on to test and see what's going on but I kinda have an idea now. Appreciate it
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    Ramoth Elggur
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    Dont know if this helps but i do have two different openers: one of them being as MT the other one as OT with adjustments hare and there depending on encounters.
    (especially when Alexander gets released then there will be alot of tweaks here and there).

    MT Rotaion: I usually start the Pull with Overpower( Tomahawk if i have to position the boss etc.) followed by unchained right at the start. Then im gonna start the combo as follows:

    Heavy Swing -> Maim-> internal realase + berserk -> Storms eye ->Heavy Swing -> Skull Sunder -> Butchers Block ->Fracture -> Heavy Swing -> Inner beast ( switch to Deliverance) -> Maim -> Sorms Eye -> then i get pacified -> I stay in Deliverance and use CDs to mitigate or switch back to defiance if needed.
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    Inner beast is optinal what u can do too is before applying Fracture switching Stance and then continue with "Heavy swing" and "Felt Cleave" instead.. This is optional and depends on your encounter. if mitigation is needed I usually use "Inner Beast". If healers are prepared/no big damage is coming for a while I go with""Felt Cleave"

    I usually try to stay as much as i can in deliverance while also mitigationg with minor/Major CDs. If i have no choice then i turn on "Defiance".if i have "Unchained" rdy and there is no big hit incoming or major mechanic i activate it.
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  8. #18
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    The OT rotaion is nothing special tbh u basicly just start with "Deliverance" :

    Heavy Swing -> Maim -> internal Realease + Berserk -> Storms Eye ->
    Heavy Swing -> Skull Sunder -> Butchers Block ->
    Fracture -> Heavy Swing -> Felt Cleave -> infuriate -> Felt Cleave -> Maim -> then u get pacified

    Optional Butchers block combo u can also use the Storms Path combo if u dont wanna steal aggro of the MT or if u need Mitigation.

    After that its pretty basic u rotate Between your "Storms Eye" and " Butchers Block" Combo (Optional Storms patch for mitigation if needed) while keeping your fracture up and usingFelt Cleave whenever u can ( if u have to tankswapp i save my Wrath stacks and after the swapp i activate "Unchained")



    PS: i havent included "Brutal Swing" in this becaus in some fights u dont wanna use your stun. If thats not the case, "weave" it in whenever u can.

    Also big APOLOGY for triple post i typed too much D:
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by RamothElggur View Post
    Heavy Swing -> Maim-> internal realase + berserk -> Storms eye ->Heavy Swing -> Skull Sunder -> Butchers Block ->Fracture -> Heavy Swing -> Inner beast ( switch to Deliverance) -> Maim -> Sorms Eye -> then i get pacified -> I stay in Deliverance and use CDs to mitigate or switch back to defiance if needed.
    This is what I do atm, though I IB before HS since IR runs out before it if you HS first. If IB isn't necessary (dungeon bosses), I'll FC instead and switch to Deliverance after BB.

    You could get a double FC in if you don't Unchained, but I don't think that's mathematically better (6 GCDs of nerfed damage, Berserk/IR either being delayed or only buffing nerfed damage, not being able to start with Eye, etc. etc.). Might be wrong though, can't say for sure.

    Also, obligatory tip that you can edit your post to bypass the character limit.
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    IB or FC after IR also depends on your Skill Speed and how u time your attacks from waht iver experienced for me it works like a charm using IB / FC after heavy swing (IR is still up )
    but that also depends on SS and ping i think

    and the reason why i unchaine is when i start as MT so im not suffering the dmg penalty from Defiance at the start

    PS thanks for the tip with that edit thing i keep that in mind :-)


    ( i ralely type in forums tbh so dont know every trick XD)
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    Last edited by RamothElggur; 06-27-2015 at 05:47 PM.

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