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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    There's no law, because pedophilia isn't illegal. It's a psychological ailment. Child pornography and child molestation are illegal, but they are crimes generally committed by pedophiles.

    Pedophilia, again, is the attraction to/having sexual urges towards children. It doesn't matter what visual form. In fact, loli and shota doujin gives pedophiles an outlet to express their sickness. If they didn't have those, they would most likely be viewing either 3D renders or pictures of real children.

    The fact of the matter, as Sam has pointed out several times now, is that creating a race that is quite obviously modeled after children will only encourage pedophilic behavior. Especially if they're able to sexualize said race. And no, just claiming that "the members of this race are adults and X number of years old, yet they look like children" is not acceptable. That would be the exact same as showing a picture of child pornography and saying, "Let's just pretend she's 18".
    Waitaminute... by your own logic, then, we SHOULD have child characters in this game, so that paedophiles are given a harmless outlet for their psychological issues and will be less likely to resort to less savory outlets. Which side of the discussion are you on, anyway? XD

    Mind you, I'm not invested one way or the other about adding child player characters to the game, but neither do I think that doing so would plunge the game into a dark age of pedo ERP. It's as silly as imagining that allowing male characters more cross-dressing options would turn the world into a drag festival.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Waitaminute... by your own logic, then, we SHOULD have child characters in this game, so that paedophiles are given a harmless outlet for their psychological issues and will be less likely to resort to less savory outlets. Which side of the discussion are you on, anyway? XD

    Mind you, I'm not invested one way or the other about adding child player characters to the game, but neither do I think that doing so would plunge the game into a dark age of pedo ERP. It's as silly as imagining that allowing male characters more cross-dressing options would turn the world into a drag festival.
    thats not what they are saying, as the majority of people who do act on such feelings have already committed to doing said act, with or without help. the argument stems from trying to stop something before it can happen, similar to people who say to ban guns because others kill people with guns.
    "dont own guns, they kill people!"
    "dont put kids in the game, there are pedos out there!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaze3434 View Post
    thats not what they are saying, as the majority of people who do act on such feelings have already committed to doing said act, with or without help. the argument stems from trying to stop something before it can happen, similar to people who say to ban guns because others kill people with guns.
    "dont own guns, they kill people!"
    "dont put kids in the game, there are pedos out there!"
    You probably shouldn't start trying to patronize with the whole gun argument. With all the gun violence happening in America at the moment and the rest of the world laughing at 'murica because the rest of the world has proven anti-gun/high control policies actually work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    You probably shouldn't start trying to patronize with the whole gun argument. With all the gun violence happening in America at the moment and the rest of the world laughing at 'murica because the rest of the world has proven anti-gun/high control policies actually work.
    Yes, they work to cause even more crime. As proven, guns actually lower crime.

    Anyways, OP is right. Why can't we play children? It makes no sense to me. Why can't we play half races either?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Yes, they work to cause even more crime. As proven, guns actually lower crime.
    Uhhhhh, this is getting pretty off-topic, but no, guns don't actually lower crime. In fact, the USA has THE highest per-capita prison population on the entire planet, which alone disproves the theory that more guns = less crime.

    But guns actually embolden people to do dumb things. Being able to play as cute child-like creatures? Not so much. The analogy fails from its premise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Yes, they work to cause even more crime. As proven, guns actually lower crime.
    That is the biggest mountain, nay, galaxy of BS I have ever seen spewed from someone's mouth (or in this case, fingers).

    Suffice it to say, you could not possible be more wrong. Do you want me to name the countries with strict gun control laws that have a lower crime rate than America? All of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    You probably shouldn't start trying to patronize with the whole gun argument. With all the gun violence happening in America at the moment and the rest of the world laughing at 'murica because the rest of the world has proven anti-gun/high control policies actually work.
    yes control policies do work to a degree, and i wasnt trying to bring the gun debate in. i was making a connection with the way some people go overboard on things when feelings come into play.
    ironicly, some of the places that have stricter regulations in regards to guns have a higher kill rate of non gun related violence, including knives, trains, buildings, cars, and anything else they can use. someone who aims to do something will do it, regardless of rules or policies put in place to prevent it from happening.
    as for my comment that you quoted, i was trying to prevent that person from using what you said against you because what he said wasnt what you were getting at. you are for a proactive prevention instead of reactive.
    besides the " 'murica" part, this has been one of the more entertaining "debates"(using this word loosely from how some of the other comments have been) in a good while because neither side is truely wrong.
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    Last edited by Kaze3434; 06-27-2015 at 03:57 AM.