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    Muriel Murconic
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    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
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    Hmm really? I guess I didn't notice the nocturnal healing potency on the tooltip I generally just quick read to get the jist and learn from doing, I have been feeling its like paper but I guess its because of mobs hitting harder then, I will need to level my scholar and compare I guess.
    Being able to faceroll mechanics like T10 prey is still something I love from Astro and I hope Alex brings in his own mechanics where that can be cool.

    Actually a mana regen added to Collective unconsciousness could be a really good idea, kind of reminds me of some channeling mana skills from other games where you have to be still for a set time to regain mana it will also make using the entire Collective cast time worth it, I mean you could add more to the support table for Astro as well by making it a mana regen for everyone standing in it, that could change up a few things and once again its balanced against Bard and Machinist by the fact they can still effectively do things while they use their mana regens and they can use it longer than collective stays up.
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    Lorelei Diangelo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycinder View Post
    Hmm really? I guess I didn't notice the nocturnal healing potency on the tooltip I generally just quick read to get the jist and learn from doing, I have been feeling its like paper but I guess its because of mobs hitting harder then, I will need to level my scholar and compare I guess.
    Being able to faceroll mechanics like T10 prey is still something I love from Astro and I hope Alex brings in his own mechanics where that can be cool.

    Actually a mana regen added to Collective unconsciousness could be a really good idea, kind of reminds me of some channeling mana skills from other games where you have to be still for a set time to regain mana it will also make using the entire Collective cast time worth it, I mean you could add more to the support table for Astro as well by making it a mana regen for everyone standing in it, that could change up a few things and once again its balanced against Bard and Machinist by the fact they can still effectively do things while they use their mana regens and they can use it longer that collective stays up.
    Part of the reason Nocturnal Aspected Benefic seems like poop is because yes, mobs are hitting harder, tanks are relatively undergeared and ASTs are relatively undergeared. At 50, in full i130, my Nocturnal Aspected Benefic was hitting for about 1100 HP, and my Adloquium was hitting for like 1300-1350. Assuming they scale equally, it won't make for a HUGE difference at higher ilevel, the more noticeable issue is that Nocturnal Astrologians don't get a double shield from their crit Aspected Benefics like SCHs do for Adlo. I'm honestly not sure how to adjust them so that their mitigation is somewhat on par, which is why I suggested a BITTY increase to their Aspected Benefic potency under Nocturnal Sect. I don't want them to be SCH Lite, but if the core focus is their shields then they at least need to be SUFFICIENT when compared to a SCH (remember, ASTs in Nocturnal are basically SCHs with access to Cure II and Medica, which can give them an edge).
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    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
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    Hmm maybe add in a buff of some sort for the person under the effect of the shield until the shield is broken? like maybe damage mitigation by a small percent which will still be noticeable but not trump scholars maybe even make it a crit only thing like double shield...It seems like something which would fit astrologian.

    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    (remember, ASTs in Nocturnal are basically SCHs with access to Cure II and Medica, which can give them an edge).
    Kind of how I replied to my Static tank when he asked "So how is Astrologian for you?" being able to benefic and combo with aspected seems to be the way to go (and reminds me of the time when people thought making a fairy heal with adlo was a good idea so I am waiting on people to tell me its wrong and I am a horrible person.)
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