Why do you dislike Garlemald Empire and Ascians?

[LaurelinKementari]

The empire as a whole is still very much by their own effort, and, as far as we know through 3.0 has no real horse in the race between light, dark, primals, super beings. They are simply exploiting ancient tech so they can stand against these godlike powers themselves as the allagans did.

Hate to be that guy but who was the very-much-backed-by-the-Emperor Legatus of the VIIth legion that got himself temperred by an Elder Primal inside an ancient satelite? Two of the Empire's big shots have been, in effect, pawns of a higher power.

[Elim]

I actually like the Garlemald Empire... I'd rather work for them. lol

[3Jane]

Originally Posted by Roda View Post
They've killed people I like.
And Garlemald likes genocide too much.

I love this one. So, liking genocide a little is o.k?

[Ramath]

I actually like the Garlemald Empire... I'd rather work for them. lol

I thought I was the only one!

[Lemuria]

the Ixal which I'm not clear on why they summoned Garuda.

The Ixal are a strange bunch. They summoned Garuda because of promises they would regain their long lost power of flight. Where they heard these whispers is up for speculation, but I'll wager the Ascians had a hand in their aggression.

Instead, Garuda just makes increasing demands every time she is summoned and they never get any closer to getting their wings.

[Atoli]

I don't feel like discussing this because OP is too focused on only this one viewpoint they like and bends everything else to fit her view...but I also can't keep silent on this topic either xD

So about Garlemald:
1. My own reason to dislike them:
Easy - because they want to kill me for something I obtained against my own will.
This dates back to 1.0 story, but basically, lots of people in Eorzea were fine with Garlemald invading, especially Ul'dah's leaders. The only reason we started teaming up with Minfilia and built that semi-useless organisation with the Scions was because Garlemald wanted to kill not just every beastmen in existence (which didn't bother humans all too much, tbh) but everyone able to communicate with them (a trait the WoL obtained through the Echo). Unless you are seriously suicidal, you'd dislike being killed, so yeah.

2.

Corruptions in militant forces exists everywhere the way I see it, some are more readily visible than others. For all we know, similar things might be happening in the underworld of all three nations.

Really? You compare slight corruption and bad things happening in the CRIMINAL UNDERWORLD in one country with something that is OPENLY practiced and accepted and the NORM in another country? Yes of course the Eorzean city states are not free of murder, slavery and corruption. But the difference is - it is looked down upon. It's considered a BAD thing, something authorities are trying to get rid of. That's not the case for the colonies of Garlemald - the people there are lawfully treated as nothing more than livestock and brainwashed from early childhood to accept that as the norm and are brutally killed should they rebel against that system. The mere thought of comparing that to some lawlessness in the Eorzean underworld baffles me...

About the Ascians:
So far I don't exactly dislike them.
But, like several others said already, one of the few things we reliably know about them is that they are responsible for draining the planet of aether aka lifeforce. If the planet dies, we all die, so obviously I'd try to stop them.
If they have a good reason for doing it other then "Muhaha, we will be soo powerful when our Master Z****** awakes!", they sure haven't bothered trying to convince people why their plan would be a good idea to follow...

[Nyaria]

Garleans: Warmongering Technophiles that like to steal technology they don't understand and use it to opress other countries, giving them the virdict of "Submit and be conscripted and used as cannon fodder and your lands sucked dry to fuel our never-ending thirst for expansion, or we'll take your land anyways and kill you all, preferably slowly, painfully and with torture to try to make you submit."

The garleans are quite liteterally the scum of the earth when it comes to FFXIV, they would rather utterly destroy entire races of creatures due to their (While reasonable) fear of the primals, instead of finding out why they are being summoned in the first place (News flash Garleans, your tactics are why primals are being summoned more, Good job there). Garleans are basically the nazi's of this world, anyone else is lesser and either needs to be exterminated or subjugated under their rule (Hell, many of them believe this so much that defecting from their massacres across the globe basically gets you labeled as a traitor to be put to death, not to mention we have a prime example of what happens when the Garleans get ahold of a country, just look at the dolmen, they were taken over and abused, and tried to break away during the war of succession, which lead to the garleans just deciding to litearlly obliterate an entire civillization because they didn't want to be ruled under an iron boot.

The ascians are no different than the Garleans, except the fact they are the ones constantly inciting these sorts of things, giving these primal summoning powers to anyone they can, just to weaken hydalin and promote their god, which of course is the one 'True" god, which is probably just a primal controling them like puppets, whom just happens to basically be the embodiment of all that is evil and chaos, and apparently we are all suppose to just bow down and let them do what they want. (Fat chance)

Both of these groups are literally the most basic of "We are evil because we are evil bastards" There is no "Hidden Agenda" for either side, their intentions, beliefs, and the way they plan to make good on those intentions are all laid completely out in the open, there is no surprises except for how much more evil and deranged can we possibly look.

There are some "Villans" that I can understand people not wholely hating, but the Garleans and Ascians are not part of that catagory, they are litearlly killers / evil / dominators simply to do just that, they have no other motive, and no other reason than to just be the "Bad guys"

Genocide is not cool, ever, except mabye in the ascians case.

[nuyu11]

Garlemald: they're warmonger
Ascians: they kill my Moenbryda

[Krylo]

The Ixal are a strange bunch. They summoned Garuda because of promises they would regain their long lost power of flight. Where they heard these whispers is up for speculation, but I'll wager the Ascians had a hand in their aggression.

Instead, Garuda just makes increasing demands every time she is summoned and they never get any closer to getting their wings.

Yeah I remember that from Ixali quests, I just couldn't remember if that's why they worship her or why they summoned her. Most beast tribes only summon their primals if shit is going down and they need the help.

[reillyblair]

the main reason i see is we are manipulated/told to dislike/hate them

me personally i quite like them and i don't think they are evil at all.

to me an evil person does something that they know is wrong, both the ascians and the empire believe what they are doing is the right thing to do.