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  1. #2251
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    OneWingedSora's Avatar
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    Mala Liath
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Just did Ravana extreme in i150(170 weapon), 690 dps.. but that was a perfect run where I didn't screw up any of my rotation, other runs were usually 630-660. I think that is one of the better fights for BLM honestly. Aside from last phase, there doesn't seem to be much movement involved and the times you DO need to move, you can just swifcast Blizzard IV to keep Enochian up.

    I think BLMs fine, it's definitely harder to play and maximize DPS on than SMN, but once you DO learn the fight, it becomes really good.
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    Garashi Yakumo
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    Siren
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    I've been wondering, people are saying that playing blackmage to it's maximum potential makes you at the mercy of RNG, but is there a way to have a "safe" rotation that doesn't cripple your dps too much for when unpredictable mechanics might happen? Why would it imply cast wise and how much dps would you lose?
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  3. #2253
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    Sleigh's Avatar
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Garash View Post
    I've been wondering, people are saying that playing blackmage to it's maximum potential makes you at the mercy of RNG, but is there a way to have a "safe" rotation that doesn't cripple your dps too much for when unpredictable mechanics might happen? Why would it imply cast wise and how much dps would you lose?
    There's only one rotation besides the Enochian rotation and that's ARR's rotation, which is probably about 20% less assuming no mess ups. It's the kind of damage you would hope to only have to go into for 10s or so due to mess-ups.

    The Enochian rotation itself is, follow the script, then you do F1s or B3 early to salvage movement, damage control.
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  4. #2254
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    Taunto Balbane
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    some interesting points have been made about the new BLM abilities.. agree with most... but im a lil curious. people are saying they start with fire 3 for the opener? whats wrong with leylines+sharp cast f1,enochian,fire 3 proc,swiftcast f4?
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  5. #2255
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    Aikaal Leyma
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Taunto View Post
    some interesting points have been made about the new BLM abilities.. agree with most... but im a lil curious. people are saying they start with fire 3 for the opener? whats wrong with leylines+sharp cast f1,enochian,fire 3 proc,swiftcast f4?
    I compared my rotation with the rotaiton of another BLM in my FC. Assuming you have Piet buff from party (Which you should have) You can

    QS > Sharpcast > Leylines > Swift F3 > Enochian > Raging Strikes > F1 > F4 x3 > F3 Proc > Convert > F4x3 > B3 > Mana Tick > B4

    Regardless the time you wait for your mana tick, it seems to be the highest damage opener. At least, this is the rotation I've came up that was the highest damage. Issue is Cooldowns do no sync together.

    My biggest concern and dislike on Ravana Ex is those damn butterflies that have 10k health and you start a F4 and this DRG destroys your target and you've successfully lost 3 seconds of your parse. No matter what I'm trying to do to max my dps, I feel I can only get to good Summoners being a God and if I were to go Summoner and play it like a God, I'd pummel my BLM. They seem equal on a dummy.
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  6. #2256
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    Twilite's Avatar
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I really hate to sound opposing, but it doesn't matter what anyone can do on a dummy. It is what you can do against actual mechanics, that's where everything counts. Dummies don't move, don't attack, don't auto-target you with AOEs whenever you pop leylines, etc. You can blast a dummy for 1000 dps, but you're not gonna do that against a boss that is jolly rogering all over the damn area.

    Quote Originally Posted by Garash View Post
    I've been wondering, people are saying that playing blackmage to it's maximum potential makes you at the mercy of RNG, but is there a way to have a "safe" rotation that doesn't cripple your dps too much for when unpredictable mechanics might happen? Why would it imply cast wise and how much dps would you lose?
    The ARR rotation revolves around knowing when to go into Umbral Ice(just using Bliz 3 doesn't cut it) at the right moment. Otherwise you're gonna sit there for 3 seconds with not enough mp to go back into Astral Fire(and by extension..waiting for full mp). So it has its difficulties as well.
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    Last edited by Twilite; 06-26-2015 at 04:45 PM.

  7. #2257
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    Tman00's Avatar
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    Jude Foreman
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    Excalibur
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Farmed Ravana for like 3 hours. Highest parse I gotten was 766, on average I'd say my DPS within the fights I was 710 average with ilvl 162 with the opener rotation I use. This is of course with Foes playing here and there. Either way, BLM takes a lot more effort to be good in fights and in progression, I don't know if they'll be good for that considering most fights are move heavy. That is of course I can just Turret all day like in T8.
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  8. #2258
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    Einzele Rossweisse
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    Tonberry
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    Goldsmith Lv 80
    A question, how do u guys handle with thunder proc if it doesnt last till umbral phase?
    Enochian is so tight that if i use thunder in astral phase i need to cut 1 f4, is it worth it?
    My opener is as follow
    T1 > ley > b3 > sharp > f3 > enoch > f1 > rs > f4 x 3 > f3 > f4 > sc flare convert > f4 > b3
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  9. #2259
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    OneWingedSora's Avatar
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    Mala Liath
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by einzele View Post
    snip.
    Nah, it isn't worth using TC in astral fire.


    opener: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0ZU8hpwl_I
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  10. #2260
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    Dorion Stormwind
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    Ultros
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    I think the comments in this thread far out way my initial observations

    http://redd.it/3b4fr1

    I really don't think BLM dps should be compared to other dps parses when it's based off of dummy numbers....it's just not a realistic expectation of what our realistic dps is in most encounters.

    From reading the comments I think the biggest takeaway is that we have 2 GL stacks to manage and BLM recovery takes vastly longer than other GL-like rotations.
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    Last edited by willowmyer; 06-27-2015 at 02:19 AM.

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