The Dark knight needs to be sent back to the drawing board

[Kelg]

Doesn't have the tankiness of a Paladin, but share's it's HP pool. Some of it's skills don't fit, or are weak...

Enhanced Unmend: Why? This doesn't even make sense. Are we supposed to spam unmend to try to get that 30% proc so we can use unleashed for free? I don't get it. Most of the time I do get this proc, I just ignore it. It should be something like "restores 10% of max mp 30% of the time when unmend is used" or something... This trait just seems like it doesn't fit and wasn't well thought out.

Sole Survivor: Why does this even exist? We get this while Warrior gets deliverance, raw intuition, equilibrium, and Paladins get things like Sheltron and Clemency. This skill honestly just needs to be replaced with something useful.

Living Dead: Literally just a lesser version of Hallowed Ground. Feels clunky, and forces Healer to focus healing you, instead of giving them a break like hallowed ground does. Also, it doesn't work too well in DF, most people don't even full heal you while you are walking dead. This skill should be replaced with something like Dread Spikes from FFXI, I am honestly surprised they didn't use it in the first place since it seems like a tanking ability.

Dark knights skills in general feel a bit underwhelming, considering it's just a Paladin without a shield... I feel like Dark knight has to try so much harder than other tanks only to not perform as good as them. Why would someone really want a Dark knight in a group over a paladin or even a warrior? 30% magic resistance? The enemy will still be spanking you with their physical attacks. Int down? You can use a monk. They don't bring anything to the table that you can't get elsewhere. It needs to go back to the drawing board.

[Kumabear76]

... considering it's just a Paladin without a shield...

I believe the crux of your issue with DRK may lie in your expectations of the job. It is not "just a Paladin without a shield", it is a new job entirely with a different play style. Each of the tanks have different nuances about them that make them stand out. Try to set aside your expectation and look at it with open eyes. Perhaps check out this other thread about the job.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...k-Knight-Guide

[Mahri]

Sole Survivor: Why does this even exist?

Do not insinuate that they need to get rid of the greatest troll move in the game.

[HeavensSword]

Do not insinuate that they need to get rid of the greatest troll move in the game.

Not sure how it's a troll move. More than likely it is just a mistranslation, because it functions more like Mercy Stroke in that you can use it on a monster.

[Mahri]

Not sure how it's a troll move. More than likely it is just a mistranslation, because it functions more like Mercy Stroke in that you can use it on a monster.

You just broke my heart

but saved every Dragoon I know a bit of minor irritation.

[SuzakuCMX]

Do not insinuate that they need to get rid of the greatest troll move in the game.

You can use it on mobs too :X It's a better version of Mercy Stroke.....

You can also use it on allies I think. So don't worry; death of Loldrgs and lolNins will still help you.

[Hyunckel]

I never had that much fun playing a tank since forever. I got no issues surviving, heck people often tell me "how the hell do you take so little damage" when I chain pull packs of adds in The Vault lol

I find it's fine as it is, it's not just a paladin without a shield lel

Edit: Timing your Dark Arts + Soul Eater or in aoe situations : Dark Arts + Abyssal Drain is key to mitigate a lot of dmg. With a preemptive Blood Price you can use Dark Arts + Soul Eater a bunch and regen a lot of HP (with Grit stance ofc)

[Evergrey]

Living Dead: Literally just a lesser version of Hallowed Ground. Feels clunky, and forces Healer to focus healing you, instead of giving them a break like hallowed ground does. Also, it doesn't work too well in DF, most people don't even full heal you while you are walking dead. This skill should be replaced with something like Dread Spikes from FFXI, I am honestly surprised they didn't use it in the first place since it seems like a tanking ability.

I see you havn't played WAR, because WAR's Holmgang lets the WAR survive with 1hp during its duration and healers have to focus heal the WAR. So this complain of yours that Healers have to focus heal has been in game for a long time.

[Sylve]

I see you havn't played WAR, because WAR's Holmgang lets the WAR survive with 1hp during its duration and healers have to focus heal the WAR. So this complain of yours that Healers have to focus heal has been in game for a long time.

I was more amused about the fact that if a PLD pops Hallowed Ground in an emergency at low HP, healers will need to focus him to bring him back up to full before the effect runs out and he takes a slapping.

OP hasn't got much ground to stand on with his arguments.

[Lemuria]

I was more amused about the fact that if a PLD pops Hallowed Ground in an emergency at low HP, healers will need to focus him to bring him back up to full before the effect runs out and he takes a slapping.

Errm... not really, they just need healing out of the danger zone. Same with Warriors. Dark Knights literally need FULL hp or they'll die regardless. Fine if you're a white mage with Benediction to spare, but it can be quite challenging at times to restore a tank to full HP in that short time when they're still taking damage.

That said, to me Dark Knight doesn't seem too bad overall. The hilarious confusion over Sole Survivor made for some interesting conversations before we realized what it really did though.