o.O Overkill on the crafting Dumb down?

[AreeyaJaidee]

i really dont think you understand where a few of us crafters are coming from in this late thread right now
we arent saying the changes are bad, we arent arguing against them(least im not)

but there are several VERY ignorant posters, who have no grasp on the market, or crafting at all, who are preaching like things are gonna be all perfect and better now without even understanding a thing at all

also, we are varying the items we sell, we know how the market works, weve been playing it for a while now. those who craft seriously have been continuing to make a profit because we know how it works, those who tried to get in and make a few bucks not understanding gave up cuz they just made random items or mass produced too many that wouldnt sell cuz they didnt understand how the market worked at all

- _ - some ppl only post on these forums to troll. Sounds like those "ignorant" posts fit that criteria.

My main point is: of course it's not going to be perfect. SE can't account for every human factor. Human beings are mostly greedy by nature and as long as SE keeps FFXIV a player controlled economy "smarter" players will continue to abuse the system regardless.

[Sorel]

any crafter who puts up 20 of the same item at any given time is retarded
nuf said

(sigh) I thought we got past the name-calling. (/sigh)

I would be greatly appreciative if you would be generous enough to answer the question I asked ... in addition to your colorful commentary. I understand that's how some in the community communicate best, so I'm trying not to take it personally.

[AreeyaJaidee]

(sigh) I thought we got past the name-calling. (/sigh)

I would be greatly appreciative if you would be generous enough to answer the question I asked ... in addition to your colorful commentary. I understand that's how some in the community communicate best, so I'm trying not to take it personally.

The answer: you should sell 20 of the same item at one time unless it's a low cost rapid consumable stacked item (cotton balls, sinew cords)

That type of ignorance in sells is what exponentially over saturates markets.

How are players supposed to know this? Trial and error

[AreeyaJaidee]

The answer: you **shouldn't** sell 20 of the same item at one time unless it's a low cost rapid consumable stacked item (cotton balls, sinew cords)

That type of ignorance in sells is what exponentially over saturates markets.

How are players supposed to know this? Trial and error

sorry for ghetto edit. I'm on iPhone and SEs mobile API sucks.

[Cascade]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post307039


still not english version... maybe we can get it translated

[AreeyaJaidee]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post307039


still not english version... maybe we can get it translated

Awesome find! Reading it now.

Man if English players could be more like the Japanese players and less trollish/rude maybe yoshi would allow his posts on our side of the forum lol! Americans are such a cancer sometimes.

[Holland]

Yoshi's post looks rather promising, I am glad he has taken into account the amount one spends while crafting. Thats the whole point in my opinion of the recipe changes. For a niche group maybe it is, but for the majority is not really fun to spend so much time looking for items just to craft one piece of gear.

And that example on high level gear looks awesome!, you can enhance the already made gear with additional pieces and make it stronger in certain stats for different classes!? :O!

[Kailea_Nagisa]

any crafter who puts up 20 of the same item at any given time is retarded
nuf said

and why would this be? is it retarded to want to keep your store stocked? no, then you are wrong ;p

[AreeyaJaidee]

and why would this be? is it retarded to want to keep your store stocked? no, then you are wrong ;p

Price is usually considered most important before quantity. Quantity matters more so for stacked consumables rather than redistributable items such as armors, weapons. Etc.

[TheVedis]

and why would this be? is it retarded to want to keep your store stocked? no, then you are wrong ;p

if you got 20 of an item up, youll be undercut so fast that none will sell....

its better to put up 4-5 tops of an item, and put up a variety if you want stuff to sell

thats why, logic