Major plot hole with Heavensward ending (Spoilers, duh)

[nyttyn]

Hm, those are some pretty good points. Still kind of out of the right field, but it does make much more sense when one considers those two factors.

Though, it does raise some disturbing implications if dragons can come back from the grave like that.

[Viridiana]

Though, it does raise some disturbing implications if dragons can come back from the grave like that.

We know Midgardsormr can, at least if the Battle of Silvertear Skies before 1.0 actually killed him. I suspect that Mid is the only one who's completely immortal, and the others have a more limited form. I don't think Ratatoskr will ever be able to be brought back, for example, and the same is probably true of the real Bahamut.

[Allyrion]

We know Midgardsormr can, at least if the Battle of Silvertear Skies before 1.0 actually killed him. I suspect that Mid is the only one who's completely immortal, and the others have a more limited form. I don't think Ratatoskr will ever be able to be brought back, for example, and the same is probably true of the real Bahamut.

I have serious doubts that what possesses Estinien is even the real Nidhogg.
Not in the primal sense though.
I suspect it's more like the essence of hatred and fury that rages within the Eyes taking form.

[Kaiser-Ace]

Now this is a completely baseless assumption, but it seems to me that TRUE Eikons are God Like beings independent of summoners.

What do all primals, even Bahamut and Phoenix, have in common? Summoners, Prayer + Crystals summons a godlike being in the image of the summoner's desires.

Which of our "Primal" foes hasn't fit this pattern? That would be Odin who apparently uses The Zantetsuken to Summon himself using the last schlub that picked it up as a catalyst.

And what exactly Alexander is remains to be seen. But it seems Eorzians throw the word Primal around as carelessly as the Garleans throw around the word Eikon.

But based on our revelations of the Primals Bahamut and Shiva I'd say we have a way of definitively identifying what a primal is now. That being a glorified aethyric construct that is summoned using your perceived image of the being you're calling.

(Hey I was right for once)

[RyuRoots]

Hm, those are some pretty good points. Still kind of out of the right field, but it does make much more sense when one considers those two factors.

Though, it does raise some disturbing implications if dragons can come back from the grave like that.

It's probably a safe assumption that this level of power is something only the Great Wyrms are capable of (Tiamat if she were free, Hraesvelgr, and so on). It's worth remembering that Thordan and his group of betrayers didn't dine on any old dragon eyes; they picked one of the great ones. We also never see any dragons do anything like taking a new form/body for themselves after apparently being dead aside from Midgardsormr and our friend Nidhogg.