o.O Overkill on the crafting Dumb down?

[TheVedis]

10K gil for a 3K gil item would be be illogical, I agree.

But as I noted in previous posts, you and I have a disagreement on how much of a price drop will occur because Parts are replaced with more common Refined Materials in recipes.

Right now, the median price for a [item=4040101]Bronze Labrys[/item] is 25,000 gil. You seem to believe that price will drop 90% to about 2,500 gil. I just don't see that happening.

ive been in the crafting vs market game for a year...ive seen it happen on EVERY item that gets oversaturated in the market
ive been personaly responsible for making items go down 400% in value cuz i make too many of them vs the competition

now imagine the market where its easier to make all these items? thats exactly whats gonna happen
when no one has to make parts and can buy the easy to make materials everyone else is already making.

if your labrys goes for 25k now i can easily see it going for 5k or less post patch. and then it will just flat out disappear from the market as no one will make them(until someone sees this and the cycle starts all over again)

[Aeyis]

ive been in the crafting vs market game for a year...ive seen it happen on EVERY item that gets oversaturated in the market
ive been personaly responsible for making items go down 400% in value cuz i make too many of them vs the competition

now imagine the market where its easier to make all these items? thats exactly whats gonna happen
when no one has to make parts and can buy the easy to make materials everyone else is already making.

if your labrys goes for 25k now i can easily see it going for 5k or less post patch. and then it will just flat out disappear from the market as no one will make them(until someone sees this and the cycle starts all over again)

Having been a market player from time to time over the past...7? years on different mmos, i can confirm that's exactly what will happen..

It will either cause raw material prices to soar high or finished item prices to drop so low and that noone will bother to sell em.
But hey, atleast people who cant be bothered to consider crafters classes of their own can have their equipment that they dont really need anyway~

Also ive personally been the cause of items being sold at less of 10% of what they were selling at the day before, so yes it can happen. xD
Market cascade/competition ftw!

[Sorel]

ive been in the crafting vs market game for a year...ive seen it happen on EVERY item that gets oversaturated in the market
ive been personaly responsible for making items go down 400% in value cuz i make too many of them vs the competition

now imagine the market where its easier to make all these items? thats exactly whats gonna happen
when no one has to make parts and can buy the easy to make materials everyone else is already making.

if your labrys goes for 25k now i can easily see it going for 5k or less post patch. and then it will just flat out disappear from the market as no one will make them(until someone sees this and the cycle starts all over again)

Having been a market player from time to time over the past...7? years on different mmos, i can confirm that's exactly what will happen..

It will either cause raw material prices to soar high or finished item prices to drop so low and that noone will bother to sell em.
But hey, atleast people who cant be bothered to consider crafters classes of their own can have their equipment that they dont really need anyway~

Also ive personally been the cause of items being sold at less of 10% of what they were selling at the day before, so yes it can happen. xD
Market cascade/competition ftw!

OK. Putting aside my opinion (because it is only just that) that you are both overestimating the price drop that will occur ...

... asking an honest question now. Do you all think the fact that a crafter is only able to put a maximum of 20 of any particular Finished Product on the market at one time will either speed up or slow down this extreme price drop that you predicted?

I would also welcome Ferth's opinion on this.

[TheVedis]

OK. Putting aside my opinion (because it is only just that) that you are both overestimating the price drop that will occur ...

... asking an honest question now. Do you all think the fact that a crafter is only able to put a maximum of 20 of any particular Finished Product on the market at one time will either speed up or slow down this extreme price drop that you predicted?

I would also welcome Ferth's opinion on this.

any crafter who puts up 20 of the same item at any given time is retarded
nuf said

[Sorel]

any crafter who puts up 20 of the same item at any given time is retarded
nuf said

(sigh) I thought we got past the name-calling. (/sigh)

I would be greatly appreciative if you would be generous enough to answer the question I asked ... in addition to your colorful commentary. I understand that's how some in the community communicate best, so I'm trying not to take it personally.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

any crafter who puts up 20 of the same item at any given time is retarded
nuf said

and why would this be? is it retarded to want to keep your store stocked? no, then you are wrong ;p

[TheVedis]

and why would this be? is it retarded to want to keep your store stocked? no, then you are wrong ;p

if you got 20 of an item up, youll be undercut so fast that none will sell....

its better to put up 4-5 tops of an item, and put up a variety if you want stuff to sell

thats why, logic

[Wynn]

OK. Putting aside my opinion (because it is only just that) that you are both overestimating the price drop that will occur ...

... asking an honest question now. Do you all think the fact that a crafter is only able to put a maximum of 20 of any particular Finished Product on the market at one time will either speed up or slow down this extreme price drop that you predicted?

I would also welcome Ferth's opinion on this.

I will cause you to vendor everything else because the product you have coming in is overwhelmingly over what you are moving out through sales. Either that or you will stop crafting for a long while until your stock sells before you start up again.