New ranged LBs

[pandabearcat]

That certainly seems balanced to me.

You default to melee LB.
If all adds are stacked close enough or linear, use ranged LB.
Otherwise use caster LB.

[Allyrion]

That certainly seems balanced to me.

You default to melee LB.
If all adds are stacked close enough or linear, use ranged LB.
Otherwise use caster LB.

Ranged will probably be preferred for Cleave type aoe (2 big adds and the boss) in particular, which isn't uncommon.
Or when the adds can be stacked as you said.

There'll probably be situations when you need a wider AoE. But if ranged does more damage (which it should) then Caster will probably be more of a niche.

I just don't see a middle damage straight line missable LB getting any real use in full parties unless the potency was the same as the Melee ones.

What? So you want to make it superior to the melee LB3.
No, even there's more positioning that's silly.

It should be mid way between melee and caster damage. That's balanced.
I don't know if it is or isn't that way right now.

Well, there are certain raid situations in which one tank takes the mobs to a side of the room while the boss is being tanked across, right?
With the Ranged LB you can hit both packs.

I don't think it takes up the whole room.
Here's a gif from reddit.

Note: The MCH casts, then moves forward to cast again. The first time he does casts, you can see the whole range of it on the screen.
The second time, the end of it goes off screen.
He also gets pushed back when doing it and you can seem the attack doesn't hit everything (if the animation is accurate). It basically hits where the original cast outlines.

So that's like 2/3's of Ifrit's circle room? So I don't know if you can hit things on the opposite end in most cases.

[Miah_Dakwhil]

I used LB3 in Battle in the Big Keep on Greg. I *intentionally* (that's my story and am sticking to it!) got Greg & the healer chain. What got me was the damage shown on screen.. ~15800 for Greg and about 10400 for the chained healer. iLvl125 with zeta & Crit/Det bard setup, at the time i was right about early lvl 51 or late lvl 50.

[Allyrion]

I used LB3 in Battle in the Big Keep on Greg. I *intentionally* (that's my story and am sticking to it!) got Greg & the healer chain. What got me was the damage shown on screen.. ~15800 for Greg and about 10400 for the chained healer. iLvl125 with zeta & Crit/Det bard setup, at the time i was right about early lvl 51 or late lvl 50.

Just so you know, Limit Breaks are scaled based on all of the party's weapon damage averaged out.
Your personal stats, buffs or level don't matter.

[Miah_Dakwhil]

Just so you know, Limit Breaks are scaled based on all of the party's weapon damage averaged out.
Your personal stats, buffs or level don't matter.

Thanks! I couldn't remember if it was an average of the group or based off highest level player.

[pandabearcat]

Thanks! I couldn't remember if it was an average of the group or based off highest level player.

It also means you want your weakest (or recently dead) dps to do the LB.

[Neyka]

What's the cast time on the ranged LB? Is it comparable to the cast time on the caster LB?