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    Eudyptes's Avatar
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    Summer Lebeau
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    Jenova
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    Monk Lv 100

    The Spear card needs a slight rework.

    All of the AST cards seem to give great buffs, and the Spear card is no exception...in theory. Problem is, this card (which reduces the CDs of abilities by 20%) doesn't reduce the CD on already used abilities. This means if my tank pops all their CDs, and I use the spear card on them, it goes completely to waste. So either I have to keep a mental note of everyone's CD's and whether they are ready and will be used within the small window I have to cast that buff + the small window the buff lasts on them (not likely), "hail mary" it and just hope all goes for the best, be selfish and only use it on myself since there is at least some control with it there, or just burn it everytime I get it in hopes I get something else (most likely). None of which are really great options imo.

    There really needs to be some "on use" effect, where the CDs of already used abilities get reduced the moment the Spear buff is cast one someone. And then from there any CDs used within the buff duration will be reduced by 20%.
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    EdenArchangel's Avatar
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    Fallen Eden
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Only level 38 but I was thinking the same thing. I've been royal road-ing the spear card every time because... why bother unless it's right before a boss starts or something.
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    Clara Necris
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    It will work fine in coordinated parties. Until then, just RR it and hope your next card is Balance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexia89 View Post
    It will work fine in coordinated parties. Until then, just RR it and hope your next card is Balance.
    That's not a real solution though. Even if it works fine, or even great in raids with voice chat, it's still an issue for any pugs. Not to mention more casual players who will likely never have a proper solution to this problem. As it stands, no matter how you cut it is is simply worse than every other card on a base mechanic level.

    I'm not 60 yet, so maybe something will change it by then, but looking ahead I'm not seeing anything that would suggest it will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eudyptes View Post
    That's not a real solution though. Even if it works fine, or even great in raids with voice chat, it's still an issue for any pugs. Not to mention more casual players who will likely never have a proper solution to this problem. As it stands, no matter how you cut it is is simply worse than every other card on a base mechanic level.

    I'm not 60 yet, so maybe something will change it by then, but looking ahead I'm not seeing anything that would suggest it will.
    You can store it with Spread for one.
    Not all abilities are designed for use in all situations Besides, it's royal road effect is AOE and that can be nifty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexia89 View Post
    You can store it with Spread for one.
    Not all abilities are designed for use in all situations Besides, it's royal road effect is AOE and that can be nifty.
    Store it for what though? That's the issue here. I can store it, great. I still don't know when my group members CDs are off CD and when they will be using them within 15 sec unless I'm using voice chat. I mean, sure there are some fights here and there where there is an obvious big hit coming and it's a safe bet your tank will be saving CDs for that, but what about the other 95% of the game? Plus the solution to a broken ability shouldn't be to sacrifice the ability to store any of your other cards just so this one can be on par with the rest. Not to mention that making it's main function be Royal Road fodder is pretty much all the proof you need that it needs a slight rework. And finally, the AE effect from RR'ing it is nice, but since it also reduces the potency by half, it makes even that situational since some effects (like Bole) are less effective in a lot of situations.

    All of these abilities are already situational to an extent, but Spear is too situational. It's very unreasonable to consider it fine as is when you take pugs/more casual players into account.
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    Roxas Andrade
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eudyptes View Post
    The Spear card needs a slight rework.
    I just unlocked AST, but I think that there's too many blueish cards. The card that saves MP should be pink, to resemble the other mp-related skills...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roxas_Andrade View Post
    I just unlocked AST, but I think that there's too many blueish cards. The card that saves MP should be pink, to resemble the other mp-related skills...
    It might seem overwhelming at first, but it doesn't take too long to memorize the names and their effects.
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    Sarangal Tumet
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Roxas_Andrade View Post
    I just unlocked AST, but I think that there's too many blueish cards. The card that saves MP should be pink, to resemble the other mp-related skills...
    I know right like we got red green yellow blue light blue and another blue why not just make the mana one pink like how the tp one is yellow but yea you kinda get use to it
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    Bunny Boo
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    Its amazing at the start of a Fight.

    But after then it require some serious coordination which even then may not be worth it.
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