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    Eloah's Avatar
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    While the idea sounds nice, I doubt it would work. A Theif just wouldn't fit I a game like this. Most of the time Ninja is an upgrade to Thief, or they are just merged together.

    I had some time so I compiled this list, lol?

    Games where Ninja is an upgrade for Thief
    Final Fantasy I
    Final Fantasy V (Because the abilities can be customized)
    Final Fantasy XI (Though it was optional, the common thing to do was sub Ninja onto Thief to aid them with the skill base they already had, similar to XIV now)
    Final Fantasy XIV
    Final Fantasy Dimensions (Both jobs have their usage, but because of customization, Ninja will be used more than Thief; though it should be noted that only half of the playable cast gets Ninja)

    Games where they are seperate but equally viable
    Final Fantasy III (mostly because the abilities couldn't be customized)
    Final Fantasy VI (Locke and Shadow both have value to the party because of customization)
    Final Fantasy XI (Because this game had no gathering/crafting classes Thiefs provided the additional out of combat skills to aid in those kinds of tasks)
    Final Fantasy Tactics [every game] (Thiefs and Ninja each have different usage, though it should be noted, Ninja is unlock by using Thief)
    Bravely Default (Each job has its purpose and each one can use the others moves.

    Games that have only one, usually combining them
    Final Fantasy IV (Edge is a Ninja but has Thief skills)
    Final Fantasy VII (Yuffie is classified as a Ninja, but is played as a Thief, though because of customization anyone can be a "Thief")
    Final Fantasy IX (Zidane is a Thief, and while technically a Monk, Amarant has some classic Ninja/Samurai moves)
    Final Fantasy X (Rikku is the only Thief, though anyone can learn Steal, Mug, and Use, she is the only one who can steal from machines to kill them)
    Final Fantasy X-2 (There is no Ninja Dressphere only a Thief)
    Final Fantasy XII: IZJS (The Shikari job mimics a Ninja)
    Final Fantasy XII: RW (The Ninja is a class available only to Sky Pirates, ie this games Thieves; though it should be noted they aremonlymclassified as thieves, its not the Job they hold in battle.)
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    - snippy -
    You should have seen my face when Ninja wasn't being released as a tank.

    I know most people see Rogue as 'Thief' but it isn't really? I mean they're more similar than any other class, but I think there is still the opportunity for Thief to bring new mechanics. I could even see Thief as a job with both tank and dps options (just not with the skills I've posted :P).

    Even though the immediate reaction is mostly this:


    It's going to happen xoxo.
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    Last edited by Yellow; 06-20-2015 at 09:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow View Post
    I know most people see Rogue as 'Thief' but it isn't really? I mean they're more similar than any other class, but I think there is still the opportunity for Thief to bring new mechanics. I could even see Thief as a job with both tank and dps options (just not with the skills I've posted :P).
    But ROG is THF - SE confirmed this right from the start (it's even mentioned in game by Jacke that the ROGs were originally called thieves), and the reason for the different name is they felt the idea of the Warrior of Light, Hydaelyn's champion and a beacon of righteousness just doesn't 'gel' with the whole concept of a thief (hence ROG's lore as being more like secret agents keeping Limsa's pirate element in check from the shadows).

    This is what SE has stated, THF=ROG is canon and it pretty much says a 'traditional' named THF will never be added I'm afraid.
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 07-08-2015 at 01:19 PM.

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    Rem Crescent
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
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    Yoshi-p said that Rogue represent what thief should be and that they were once thief, true. This, however, doesn't mean that thief cant happen because of lore, lore is there actually. Some thief still exists, is still out there.

    It's just stupid to not do a THF job (an iconic job) for that reason, considering it would be a branching job and so requiring less effort for devs to work on it. There are tons of players that want to play THF job, are disappointed with the decision was made for rogue and the mudra system; because yeah, another job branching from rogue will give an option to truly enjoy the archetype for those who cant really right now for the mudra system. And no, its not gonna be fixed, because they already did that if possible.
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