New DoH Skill Descriptions

[Roth_Trailfinder]

Those can't be correct. At least, not wholly correct.

I don't see any difference between Basic Touch and Precise Touch as described here, in terms of their effects. And the restriction on Precise Touch's use? There's got to be something more to it.

Maker's Mark? Can only be used on the first move, but its duration is dependent upon current progress? Umm .. on a first move, that Current Progress is going to be zero ... There's got to be something more to it.

[aerolol]

I don't see any difference between Basic Touch and Precise Touch as described here, in terms of their effects. And the restriction on Precise Touch's use? There's got to be something more to it.

You get 2 Inner Quiet stacks with Precise Touch.
One from the touch, one from the special effect of precise touch, at the cost of only 10 (or 5 if WN) durability.
It may help with the stuff that needs your Inner Quiet stacks to be equal to Whistle stacks, such as Trained Hand.

Maker's Mark? Can only be used on the first move, but its duration is dependent upon current progress? Umm .. on a first move, that Current Progress is going to be zero ... There's got to be something more to it.

Yeah it sounds a bit confusing.

[Lyrinn]

Those can't be correct. At least, not wholly correct.

I don't see any difference between Basic Touch and Precise Touch as described here, in terms of their effects. And the restriction on Precise Touch's use? There's got to be something more to it.

As aerolol said, Precise Touch grants 2 IQ stacks, which can be great for lining up IQ and Whistle stacks for Trained Hand or for just rushing to 11 IQ stacks for Byregot's *Whatever*. It's hard to say which will be better until we know how much progress/quality and CP we're working with.

Maker's Mark? Can only be used on the first move, but its duration is dependent upon current progress? Umm .. on a first move, that Current Progress is going to be zero ... There's got to be something more to it.

Not sure about this either and it doesn't look like anyone has commented in the thread about it. Maybe it depends on the item's progress level?

It's Byregot's Mircale that truly looks terrible. Either early on where you wouldn't want to set yourself back on stacks or later even moreso + it not being as good as other options. The best scenario I can think of is using it at 4 stacks, if it lowers to 2 stacks before adding the stack for the successful touch, you'd end up with 3 stacks instead of 5 with a 140% quality increase for a low amount of CP, something that might be good to do on an excellent early on.

Keep in mind Trained Hand is amazingly efficient for its cost. It's Advanced Touch (48 CP) + Standard Synthesis (15 CP) for 10 durability. BM will be used to line up your stacks as you have to deal with IQ going up and Whistle going down. Plus we don't know how much CP we're working with at "end game" so for all we know, 2 BB rotations may even be feasible.