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    In fact, Domans call chocobos "horsebirds" and are quite confused by them and offended by their scent, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XLauncher View Post
    I can appreciate a lot of imagination went into the write up of the Auri naming conventions, but ultimately, I feel the Xaela side is pretty gimmicky...

    Let me present an example: the Borlaaq. They're the female exclusive ones that toss their male babies in the dumpster if you don't feel like going back to check...

    And don't even get me started on the ones that marry horses. Though, this is Final Fantasy. Why horses and not chocobos?
    The snippets about the clans are gimmicky, but that's probably just to distinguish them from each other. It can be assumed that aside from the custom in their snippet, Xaela clans are pretty similar and live nomadic, hunter-gatherer lifestyles unless their snippet says otherwise.

    The Borlaaq are an "amazon warrior" tribe, but the Iriq adopt any "discarded" sons they have and raise them as their own. While it might not make much sense to discard half your children, especially given the males seem to have a distinct physical advantage, they might have elaborate reasons not included in their snippet.

    Horses exist in XIV, but they're only native to Othard / Doma. Chocobos are just the Eorzean equivalent.
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    So, I'm wondering what the justification behind a Xaela retainer would be

    "I heard this warrior of light person is really strong, and I want to become their apprentice" maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotori_Southburd View Post
    So, I'm wondering what the justification behind a Xaela retainer would be

    "I heard this warrior of light person is really strong, and I want to become their apprentice" maybe?
    If the Xaela is the opposit gender it might be,
    "This WoL is said to be the strongest warrior in all of Hydaelyn. Surly a Child with said warrior would be even more powerful."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    If the Xaela is the opposit gender it might be,
    "This WoL is said to be the strongest warrior in all of Hydaelyn. Surly a Child with said warrior would be even more powerful."
    Ah, no. Aside from the Olkund actively trying to increase their height, there is nothing stating any Xaela tribe engages in any form of eugenics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Ah, no. Aside from the Olkund actively trying to increase their height, there is nothing stating any Xaela tribe engages in any form of eugenics.
    Not really Eugenics there, thats just chosing a powerful mate. Even wild animals IRL do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    Not really Eugenics there, thats just chosing a powerful mate. Even wild animals IRL do that.
    Yeah it kinda is... mating based on the advantages it can give offspring is pretty much the definition of eugenics. Civilized peoples (even if they're nomads) typically don't engage in that.

    The Xaela are not wild animals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Yeah it kinda is... mating based on the advantages it can give offspring is pretty much the definition of eugenics. Civilized peoples (even if they're nomads) typically don't engage in that.

    The Xaela are not wild animals.
    No, but at least one tribe does practice it. The Olkund bred the really tall men specifically. And you could argue that the Borlaaq also do with abandoning the male children. So while it's not likely to be the case it could still be a motivation if you want to dig that deep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Yeah it kinda is... mating based on the advantages it can give offspring is pretty much the definition of eugenics. Civilized peoples (even if they're nomads) typically don't engage in that.

    The Xaela are not wild animals.
    I thought Eugenics was what anchent Sparta did when they threw "weak" and deformed newborna from cliffs to ensure that they had a strong race?

    Picking the best mate is just the natural order of which even humans arent immune too. And contrary to popular beliefe, alot of the modern world's problems are cause by ignoring that fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kytrin View Post
    No, but at least one tribe does practice it. The Olkund bred the really tall men specifically. And you could argue that the Borlaaq also do with abandoning the male children. So while it's not likely to be the case it could still be a motivation if you want to dig that deep.
    If you want to go that far... yes, it's a possible motivation. Of course, the moviation for a retainer signing up to serve is entirely up to you, but I'd prefer not to bring eugenics into the equation and have my retainer coming on to me.

    Why can't they just be sending some earned gil home, why does it always have to be about sex? Geez...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    I thought Eugenics was what anchent Sparta did when they threw "weak" and deformed newborna from cliffs to ensure that they had a strong race?

    Picking the best mate is just the natural order of which even humans arent immune too. And contrary to popular beliefe, alot of the modern world's problems are cause by ignoring that fact.
    Yes, that is eugenics. It's also something people don't do in contemporary times.

    Let's not get into the real-world implications of that, though. OK? Not the place or time, nor is it the most pleasant of conversations to be had.
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