3.0 Adjustments to Existing Actions for WHM & SCH

[Velox]

Scholars do not have that same burst healing ability at all.

That's the whole point of some of the new skills SCH is getting, to give them more burst potential. Hell, one of them was so OP that SE had to nerf it during their tests since it completely trumped anything a WHM could put out.

Also Scholar's 25% burst healing was removed meaning they can't even burst heal tanks anymore.

Wait...what? Are you talking about Lustrate? Lustrate is still there and is still instant-cast costing 1 Aetherflow. It has 600 potency now, which is more than enough to burst heal with (especially now since it can be buffed). If anything Lustrate was enhanced since now it's not crap when using it on DPS or yourself. Before it healed about 2.3-2.5k on tanks (depending on the tank), which is really no different than Cure II. On a DPS it was MUCH lower. Now you're getting just slightly less overall heal strength with a tradeoff that it's universally good for any party member.

Seriously, SCH is sitting pretty right now. I'm thrilled.

[Risvertasashi]

I hate when developers do this. They decide they don't really like a class so they make it really crap to play so people switch over. They are really determined to make WHM just a Healer it seems and take away their ability to AoE damage. They already nerfed them before so SCH is better and now they have AST it's like "Oh we need to make sure WHM sucks nerf it again!"

Erm... some of the WHM nerfs aren't even DPS abilities. I'm reserving final judgment for the full patch notes but I'm kinda ：| at Squeenix right now

[Kabzy]

I hate when developers do this. They decide they don't really like a class so they make it really crap to play so people switch over. They are really determined to make WHM just a Healer it seems and take away their ability to AoE damage. They already nerfed them before so SCH is better and now they have AST it's like "Oh we need to make sure WHM sucks nerf it again!"

Didn't WHM just get a total 370 potency Aero III AoE? Plus Assize which is another 300 potency AoE with 10% mana regen? These things actually matter, Holy spamming was only ever viable in dungeons, never end game raids so it won't really make a huge difference for most people. As someone who plays both healers, I'm quite excited for what both parties got, and I have faith that all the healers will be somewhat balanced, probably more so around 3.1.

Edit: Also lets not forget that Scholar, the 'DPSing healer', only got one DPS ability, and that's still a much lower potency than Stone III. I'm pretty sure the healer dynamics will change for BOTH healers.

[Alkimi]

That Presence of Mind nerf is absolutely ridiculous.

They probably saw WHMs peaking at nearly 4k dps on Syrcus Tower first room trash and thought "Yeah.... we're not gonna let you do that anymore".

[Alkimi]

how badly and weak the white mage is right now.

Yeah... no. WHM is fine. I don't think you quite understand that SCH could only play to their maximum potential with a WHM alongside them.

[RazeLandale]

just did a bit of calculation and its not THAT bad at the end

sure thats a huge nerf for large pulls but it could be worse

It's not just the total potency though, it's the distribution of that potency. The goal of aoe is to knock down all the pins at once. The one mob taking full damage that dies a little earlier is irrelevant. The one guy taking 60% damage is the number that matters, because he's still standing when the fight should be over.

[Galdous]

Yeah... SCH could only play to their maximum potential with a WHM alongside them.

Only because it made more sense then uncoordinated scholars trying to bounce galvanize on the same target. Now there is a third healer option that can sync well with both healers while providing buffs. Astrologian>White mage. Yeah you can still heal but its like driving a ford pinto when you was given the option to drive a bmw. The only question is why would you want to play a white mage when you could drive an Astrologian.

[Risvertasashi]

Only because it made more sense then uncoordinated scholars trying to bounce galvanize on the same target. Now there is a third healer option that can sync well with both healers while providing buffs. Astrologian>White mage. Yeah you can still heal but its like driving a ford pinto when you was given the option to drive a bmw. The only question is why would you want to play a white mage when you could drive an Astrologian.

You're implying an awful lot of assumptions. As an example: The Astrologian's bubble requires that the casting AST can't even move. We don't know that every AST ability is equivalent or better.

[loreleidiangelo]

You're implying an awful lot of assumptions. As an example: The Astrologian's bubble requires that the casting AST can't even move. We don't know that every AST ability is equivalent or better.

Complete AST skill list with potencies HAS been datamined, you know... People definitely have enough information to draw their own conclusions now.

[Verdan]

I'm pretty sure the only real balance oversight is the Ast mana costs. They shouldn't be less, they should be the same. Aside from that it looks pretty well designed: less power, more utility and versatility. It just can't also have efficiency as an upside.