I want to be a Warrior of Darkness! D:

[Laughlyn]

Divine Might 3.0 !



- Wishful thinking ofc... lol

Ho0ray!

[myahele]

I just have trouble seeing the actual problem with a world of Light in the context of these games.
From the looks of it, the only problem in that seems to be the Darkness trying to ruin it.

Yeah, with most of the media I see where a "balance of light/dark" is needed darkness always seem bad no matter how "necessary" it is. Light is never depicted in a bad light despite having too much of it = bad.

At most they all say too much light brings stagnation..... I guess pre-Xande clone Allagan Empire is an example of too much light in the world?

[Kallera]

Yeah, with most of the media I see where a "balance of light/dark" is needed darkness always seem bad no matter how "necessary" it is. Light is never depicted in a bad light despite having too much of it = bad.

At most they all say too much light brings stagnation..... I guess pre-Xande clone Allagan Empire is an example of too much light in the world?

I think you're forgetting that the justification of bad things don't end when you take over. The Allagans still had many enemies, and likely earned more while trying to "keep the peace". If the GCs suddenly became a unrivaled superpower, all with adventurer's at the helm, perhaps another would have come to view us and our actions as a threat worth fighting against.

Many of our actions come born out of a lack of choice, we have to accept the quest, we have to do this, we have to bring that...what happens if we do have a choice? Not some silly false one, but honest to goodness choice.

Who are we in the dark? Are we all one and the same, or do we break free?

[Kaethra]

Those of you making the Ascian argument don't really understand that the Dark Warriors are NOT aligned with them. If you've played I think FFIII, the Light Warriors (your party) is actually helped by Dark Warriors. Light and Dark Warriors are about restoring the balance.

Its why we (the Light Warriors) are not helping the Garlean Empire, even though they want to destroy the darkness and the primals.

Though with that said.. being a separate 'faction' wouldn't make sense. The Dark Warriors would concentrate on the Empire, while the Light Warriors concentrate on the Primal threat and the Ascians. We're doing both already so lorewise you could claim to be a Dark Warrior if you wanted. So SE doesn't really need to change anything.

Anyhoo.. playing for the Empire has its appeal. And it wouldn't be that hard to do in all reality, mechanicswise. Just change the class/job names to match the imperial feel. Job crystals are now magitek devices. Give them their own MSQ and all that. Now that would pretty cool. Won't see it though, but its fun to think about.

[Saseal]

I'm leaning towards the WoD not being necessarily 'evil' or 'bad' - and the Ascians being the same as the Scions are to us. However, if they are, I speculate that it could either be -
a.) They are not all evil (the Ascian in white didn't pose true threat, nor has he done anything other than 'test' you/the WoL at one point... before sorta poofing and no longer making any direct influences on either side), b.) They ARE evil, but just have the WoD and can manipulate the person into doing things by justifying the orders.

Or....

Maybe Urianger is the WoD, considering the ending portion of the 2.55 MSQ cutscene....?

[Yukiko]

As mentioned before - if its related to FFIII then those warriors are not evil, they were true heroes!

Just as the Warriors of the Light had to defend their world from becoming engulfed by darkness, the Warriors of the Dark were forced to defend their own world from being swallowed by the light many years ago.

At the end of Final Fantasy III, the party has to find their dark counterparts so that they can aid them in their battle against the Cloud of Darkness. Each Warrior of the Dark appears after defeating each of the four bosses guarding the Dark Crystals in the World of Darkness: Cerberus, Echidna, Ahriman, and the Two Headed Dragon.

After each battle, one of the Warriors of the Dark tells the Warriors of the Light important information for the upcoming battle with the Cloud of Darkness. Before the final battle, the Warriors of the Dark sacrifice themselves so that the Warriors of the Light can save their own world.

[Mimilu]

I just have trouble seeing the actual problem with a world of Light in the context of these games.
From the looks of it, the only problem in that seems to be the Darkness trying to ruin it.

It's less complicated then that.
In Final Fantasy 3, there are two "worlds", The Floating Continent (referred to as the World of Light) and the Surface World (referred to as the World of Darkness).
Now, both Light and Darkness have an evil personification, that show up when there is an imbalance, that want to fling the whole world into their respected element, which in turn will reduce the world to nothingness, all darkness or all light.
Each world has warriors and four crystals to protect it.
It's not so much as Light = Good, Darkness = Bad but that their are elements just like Fire and Water or Earth and Wind.

[WellFooled]

It's less complicated then that.
In Final Fantasy 3, there are two "worlds", The Floating Continent (referred to as the World of Light) and the Surface World (referred to as the World of Darkness).
Now, both Light and Darkness have an evil personification, that show up when there is an imbalance, that want to fling the whole world into their respected element, which in turn will reduce the world to nothingness, all darkness or all light.
Each world has warriors and four crystals to protect it.
It's not so much as Light = Good, Darkness = Bad but that their are elements just like Fire and Water or Earth and Wind.

I think what Gramul is saying is that how things work in Final Fantasy III isn't how things have been shown to work in FFXIV. So you can't apply FFIII lore to FFXIV.

[Gramul]

It's less complicated then that.
In Final Fantasy 3, there are two "worlds", The Floating Continent (referred to as the World of Light) and the Surface World (referred to as the World of Darkness).
Now, both Light and Darkness have an evil personification, that show up when there is an imbalance, that want to fling the whole world into their respected element, which in turn will reduce the world to nothingness, all darkness or all light.
Each world has warriors and four crystals to protect it.
It's not so much as Light = Good, Darkness = Bad but that their are elements just like Fire and Water or Earth and Wind.

In that context, wouldn't it be smarter to take a position of sedating the hungers of both sides rather than switching sides whenever one gets too big for its britches?

Why not warriors of eventide? Or the more accurate but poorly colloquially contextualized 'twilight'?

[Edellis]

I think it's a bit more complicated in FFXIV.

There's "Light", which can refer to many things. I don't think White Magic is quite the same as Light, and if the Lost City is any indication, too much of it is certainly a bad thing.

There's Hydealyn, which...may or may not work the way primals work? I dont know. But Midgardsormr seems to be able to do the same thing, so i don't think she's all that exclusive.

There's the "Void", which may or may not be evil. Either way, it feels like DRK maybe draws from the power of the void.

Ascians seem to the be the clostest thing to darkness in the form of "evil", but there's another side to their story that nobody really knows about yet. But they seem to exist in a reality much different than the one everyone else lives in, so their motives can't really be known.