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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    I never understood the appeal to be "the bad guy" lately.
    Depends on what Lore they set the WoD in FF14 since the WoD in FF3 are people chosen to protect the world while keeping the Balance between Light and Darkness by keeping the Light in check since if the Light becomes too strong it will seek to consume the world.

    Just like the WoL who are people chosen to protect the world while keeping the Balance between Light and Darkness by keeping the Darkness in check since if the Darkness becomes too strong it will seek to consume the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Depends on what Lore they set the WoD in FF14 since the WoD in FF3 are people chosen to protect the world while keeping the Balance between Light and Darkness by keeping the Light in check since if the Light becomes too strong it will seek to consume the world.

    Just like the WoL who are people chosen to protect the world while keeping the Balance between Light and Darkness by keeping the Darkness in check since if the Darkness becomes too strong it will seek to consume the world.
    Makes sense. The Warrior of Darkness can probably summon Primals, too (since doing that is killing Hydaelyn).

    /fans the flames
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    if the Light becomes too strong it will seek to consume the world.
    Why does no game ever explain why this is a problem?

    Oh no! Order, unity, happiness, peace and love have consumed the world! We are doomed by paradise!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Why does no game ever explain why this is a problem?

    Oh no! Order, unity, happiness, peace and love have consumed the world! We are doomed by paradise!
    The only one that did that was Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn. Where order also equaled stagnation, constraint and turning every living thing into stone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrejyaAthenes View Post
    The only one that did that was Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn. Where order also equaled stagnation, constraint and turning every living thing into stone.
    Ya most game doesn't explain it but some games do such as in Shin Megami Tensei game where

    Order (Light) brings paradise to people but only a select few will be given that Paradise where people are given peace, unity, order, and happiness but those select few must remain ignorant of what is right and wrong and free will to think because ideas are what separates people and bring chaos. Those not chosen are destined to become nothing. Thus people become blinded by the light just like being blind by the darkness.

    Chaos (Darkness) brings destruction to the world and people are easily given into sin due to absolute freedom. There is no peace and no salvation but only pain. All the freedom and ideas the people are given clash so order is never obtained. Thus people become blinded by the darkness just like being blinded by the light.

    Then there is..

    Neutral (Balance) where people are not given paradise nor absolute freedom but a life that provides a bit of both. There will be suffering and hardship but those can be overcome. People's eye are more open to the world and no one is blinded by the reality of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Why does no game ever explain why this is a problem?

    Oh no! Order, unity, happiness, peace and love have consumed the world! We are doomed by paradise!
    FF3 Concept. When the force of light becomes too bright, a mirror of the Cloud of Darkness, known as the Flood of Light shows up - and it's just as bad as Cloud of Darkness, seeking to lay claim to all souls.

    That said, I don't expect FFXIV to follow this concept to the letter. Warriors of Darkness is likely an antagonist concept in this game, so no, players who are crying they want to be a Warrior of Darkness will have that wish go unfulfilled, cause they're asking to be the badguy - something SE won't do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    the Flood of Light shows up - and it's just as bad as Cloud of Darkness, seeking to lay claim to all souls.
    Now, how would that work?
    If the light has my soul, did I die? Am I in pain? Are we all frozen by endless energy? What has become of this?
    And for that matter what would darkness do? Because I sort of always assumed it just turned people greedy and spiteful enough to desire harm to everyone else. Leading to all life bringing war and destruction unto itself until its end.

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    Whether by unyielding light or eternal darkness, a man is rendered blind.
    I have sunglasses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Now, how would that work?
    If the light has my soul, did I die? Am I in pain? Are we all frozen by endless energy? What has become of this?
    And for that matter what would darkness do? Because I sort of always assumed it just turned people greedy and spiteful enough to desire harm to everyone else. Leading to all life bringing war and destruction unto itself until its end.
    Not entirely sure, did not follow FF3 because its release was in Japan during my childhood and its remake were from handheld.

    From the Final Fantasy Wiki:
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    The Cloud of Darkness.
    In Final Fantasy III, the Cloud of Darkness dwells in the World of Darkness and desires to use the power of the Void to reduce all existence to nothingness. The Warriors of the Dark that had been imprisoned within the Dark Crystals of the World of Darkness explain to the hero party that a delicate balance between the powers of Light and Darkness must be maintained in order to hold the Void at bay.

    They go on to state that whenever an imbalance or "flood" of Light or Darkness occurs, the Cloud of Darkness appears to follow through with its plans. Whenever an imbalance occurs, four individuals are selected to become Warriors of Light or Darkness depending on the imbalance (i.e. Light Warriors against darkness, Dark Warriors against Light). To combat the Cloud of Darkness the Dark Warriors decide to aid the Light Warriors in the battle so their combined powers of Light and Darkness may overwhelm it.
    So a bit of mistake in diction. Whenever the force of Light or Dark get too powerful, the Cloud of Darkness comes from the Void itself to try to claim the world for the Void.


    As I said, I doubt FFXIV will follow this vein, not exactly anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    Not entirely sure, did not follow FF3 because its release was in Japan during my childhood and its remake were from handheld.

    From the Final Fantasy Wiki:


    So a bit of mistake in diction. Whenever the force of Light or Dark get too powerful, the Cloud of Darkness comes from the Void itself to try to claim the world for the Void.


    As I said, I doubt FFXIV will follow this vein, not exactly anyways.
    So basically, Darkness is just kind of an asshole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    So basically, Darkness is just kind of an asshole.
    The Anti-hero type - but still antagonist to the main story in FFXIV's context.

    Light and Darkness are two forms of life and morality, dynamically opposed. The Void is the concept of a true death and nothingness.
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