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  1. #21
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    Lillia's Avatar
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    Lillia Hope
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    "Although our timing was bad and we didn't run into any FATEs in Abalathia Sea of Clouds, hunt marks were scattered around so we were able to try one of those. The monster "Shishiutaur" [[guessing at name, I couldn't think of any obvious correspondence in English]] was too tough for us with four people so we tried it again when we had 16 people, almost all of us from the media tour, and we were able to beat it relatively easily. We obtained Allagan Tomestones of Law and Poetics as a reward. It was also exciting to think about flying around this field area and seeing groups of people hunting for monsters." - Credit goes to Slycer over at BlueGarter for Translations.

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    Because of the above I personally assume that while it can be changed at anytime before EA, there's a high chance that tomes of Law will be available from EA/launch but I hope SE will confirm what will happen with Law tomes in the live.
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Quote Originally Posted by aerolol View Post
    Since the dozens of lv50 dungeons we have right now will not give exp (they have confirmed this), if you didn't buy the expansion you will not have access to level 51+ areas nor dungeons, so chances are you will have to level up to 60 by FATE grinding in Mohr Donna or by (god forbid) 1st room farm Aurum Vale.
    Really? Ugh. That feels like a lost opportunity. There is going to be zero incentive to continue running these as a high level player aside from people still running their zodiac (and most of them will have moved onto Heavensward's new relic).

    I hope they review that stance and make appropriate changes down the line. There's no reason why level 50 content shouldn't give experience points at all.
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  3. #23
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by aerolol View Post
    There's no evidence to support that people that did not buy the expansion will be locked out of leveling to 60 or won't be able to get new tomestones.
    Well, I'm not sure about the tomestones, but as for leveling up from 50 to 60, there's this: (emphasis added)

    Quote Originally Posted by Gildrein View Post
    Q: Will there be any special quests or requirements in order to level up beyond 50?
    A: No, there will not. Once you register Heavensward, the level cap will be increased and you can start to earn experience points. You won't have to complete any special quests.
    Plus there's also the fact that the expansion lists "Increased level cap from 50 to 60" as one of the features you're buying.
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  4. #24
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    Blackmage Vivi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    There's no reason why level 50 content shouldn't give experience points at all.
    it was because they felt people would stay in lvl 50 content to hit lvl 60 fastest and they want people to level mostly in ishgard.

    they did say they will add exp to the content eventually.


    here's the quote and link for source http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/125...dia-Event-5-19)

    With the way the hard and expert dungeons from A Realm Reborn will be kept separate [[from Heavensward content]], will it be possible to level up there?

    Yoshida: It was a tough decision, but we decided to leave it so that you will not obtain experience there at the start of Heavensward. As a development team, we believe that moving on past level 50 should happen on the Ishgard side. Because the new dungeons have a different pacing than the ones from A Realm Reborn, we were also afraid that people would gravitate towards the older instanced dungeons for more efficient experience.

    After the situation settles down from the release of Heavensward, we might change things around by assigning some experience value, but that remains to be seen.
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    Last edited by Musashidon; 06-16-2015 at 06:17 AM.

  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Really? Ugh. That feels like a lost opportunity. There is going to be zero incentive to continue running these as a high level player aside from people still running their zodiac (and most of them will have moved onto Heavensward's new relic).
    Well, we have no idea what incentives they're going to have. Maybe the new Heavensward version of relics requires running those level 50 dungeons dozens of times each or something. SE has up through now put incentives in place to make sure people keep running the older content, and it seems doubtful they'd change that basic pattern when the current endgame stuff becomes the "older content".
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    Eros Maxima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    Gah.

    Absolutely *hate* "1 item per run per week" caps.

    Hate.
    Well, you'll also have access to other gear options with Alexander (most of which will likely be BiS). So while you'll only be able to net several equips weekly, it's still noticeably more than 1... like it's always been since Coil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aerolol View Post
    After servers come back up, regardless if you bought hs expansion or not:

    Tomestones of Soldiery will not exist anymore. (You can trade your old ones for Poetics)
    Tomestones of Poetics will not have any weekly cap anymore.
    Tomestones of Law (probably) won't have any weekly cap as well, but it's very likely you have to reach lv60 before earning any.
    This would match the pattern they've used up through now, as we progressed from Philosophy to Mythology to Soldiery to Poetics, but they might do it a bit differently when an expansion is involved, to allow for both ARR by itself and HW to have their own Tomestones.

    I'm hoping they keep Soldiery and Poetics pretty much unchanged, tradeable for the same gear they give now, but just add Law and (eventually) Esoterics in addition to them, tradeable for better HW gear. Those with just ARR would still be able to earn Soldiery and Poetics. Those with Heavensward would have access to any of the four (but are more likely to be interested in the Law & Esoterics unless they like the earlier tiers cosmetically).
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    Monkey Nutz
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    Quote Originally Posted by aerolol View Post
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    There's nothing to suggest that players who do not buy the expansion can level past 50, obtain tomestones of law (or use them), or really do anything in game that you can't do already. Maybe they'd be able to participate in airship building, but even that will likely require 51+ crafting which will be locked without registering HW.

    I don't personally understand why people would continue playing without the expansion, but I suppose there are people who will. I wouldn't expect more than very tiny updates to vanilla content from here on out.
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    Last edited by Nutz; 06-16-2015 at 06:32 AM.

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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    Well, you'll also have access to other gear options with Alexander (most of which will likely be BiS). So while you'll only be able to net several equips weekly, it's still noticeably more than 1... like it's always been since Coil.
    One Alexander drop per week.

    Or did you miss that.

    Systems like that lead to gear rotting.
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