Please Allow 50's to Enter Ishgard w/o having completed MSQ

[Nadirah]

@Dread, I can skip all of the main game of Skyrim and blow through Dragonborn DLC around level 10 if I don't want to do Alduin on a new toon.

Trials I'm concerned with: not primals.

Westwind, praetorium, castrum.

All were obnoxious during prime time. I can imagine before noon Pacific sucking more.

[Reiryuu]

@Dread, I can skip all of the main game of Skyrim and blow through Dragonborn DLC around level 10 if I don't want to do Alduin on a new toon.

Trials I'm concerned with: not primals.

Westwind, praetorium, castrum.

All were obnoxious during prime time. I can imagine before noon Pacific sucking more.

The Dragonborn DLC doesn't really continue the main story of Skyrim though, HW does. Between FCs, Party Finder and that it really isn't hard to find people willing to help you provided you actually use all the tools available to you. I mean, sitting in DF and whining to yourself that the queue time is so long doesn't really convey to other people in your FC or server that you need help for this duty. I tend to join groups like this on Valefor when I see them and they usually fill up pretty quickly especially when they're advertised.

[Duuude007]

Westwind, praetorium, castrum.

Well let's look at this realistically.

First:
Westwind is unique between these three in that it is a true trial, and not a story dungeon.


This means that if more people do trial roulettes, they will inevitably be doing Cape Westwind as well.

Right now nobody has incentive to do trial roulettes more than once a day, and only for a modest amount of poetics tomestones.
in 3.0, they will also benefit from the XP bonuses for all of this high level content which used to offer zero XP, zero specifically because we were already level capped.

I do recall even getting baby ifrit in the trial roulette on my ninja while i was leveling and the xp awarded... was enormous.

So if we are going to be realistic, trial roulettes will make clearing westwind among others quite easily. Regardless of the party config, thanks to the fact you can enter without 2 tanks, for example.

Second:
As for CM and praet... you are in the midst of a community dillema here.

Group A says they are new and deserve to be allowed to stop progressing to watch cutscenes.
Group B has done these dungeons 500+ times and just wants to speed run them.

Group A says to fix it, SE should take away incentives from group B so that they don't enter. This would result in Group B leaving and you waiting in queue longer.
The other alternative would be to add MORE incentives, but that would result in Group B being a stronger majority in these parties, and as majority decides strategy, more people in group A will be forced to speed run instead of observing cutscenes at their own pace.

Both sides have valid points, and no solution seems to be in sight. Unless you can come up with something. You do seem to be full of solutions yourself, after all.

[DreadRabbit]

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While true, Skyrim and Elder Scrolls as a whole is a unique series. While RPGs have been moving towards ES' design as a mainstay, vast majority still follow a linear format.

Truthfully I don't think that us being in pre-expac, especially the week before, is helping current queue times already. There's a lot of factors potentially slowing those of us still getting through MSQ and 2.1-2.55 post story. Too many players use roulette to make gil or whatever the current tomes are for it to spell doom, plus the changes we're getting. I personally think we'll be okay. Despite what forums would have you believe, there's still plenty of players who have to level the current classes to 50, let alone 60. There will be plenty of action once people start playing again in early access. The game's just in a data-center wide dry spell right now and has been for awhile.

[Spiritreaver1217]

Westwind was over an hour to find the second tank.

@Dread, I can skip all of the main game of Skyrim and blow through Dragonborn DLC around level 10 if I don't want to do Alduin on a new toon.

Trials I'm concerned with: not primals.

Westwind, praetorium, castrum.

All were obnoxious during prime time. I can imagine before noon Pacific sucking more.

Well you answered my question indirectly, thanks for that i suppose.

I said in the second post of mine you skipped, Cape Westwind is known to have long que-times. So i'll grant you that one. However, that one is currently a one time deal and while it sucks, when its done on a character its done.

As for CM and Praetorium, i can't see anyone being held up too long in the que for them as both are run daily by many ppl as they are the main scenario roulette-and they are dungeons not trials btw. I try to run my roulettes as close to daily reset as i can, but i've done the MS roulette as late as at least midnight eastern time and not had que's take more than 25~30 min. Not too shabby for the middle of the night.

So all that said, you aren't concerned about trials as much as you are about one trial. One trial that i will concede was overlooked by SE and not added to a roulette. All i can say to that is i hope SE rectifies the situation with Cape Westwind when the reorganize the roulette.

In the meantime, i suggest you do as other posters have put forward and que with your friend and as many other friends as possible when he/she gets to the trial in question in an effort to cut down on the wait time.

EDIT: Just to see how bad the que is for Cape Westwind is, i've logged on and decided to run it. I see i was in error, CW is listed as a req. to have the trial roulette unlocked. My bad. i honestly thought it wasn't in it.

[Gralna]

Surprised how many people seem to just be choosing to ignore the features being added to 2.XX duties/trials, that'll make getting through storyline content extremely easy.

For the umpteenth time, in 3.0, we'll be able to enter 2.xx content with no lvl/ilvl sync, and with no party size restriction. So for all of you crying that you'll have to wait 30 hours for a queue, wait a week or two, grab an FC buddy who is lvl 60, and steam roll the content.

So all that said, you aren't concerned about trials as much as you are about one trial. One trial that i will concede was overlooked by SE and not added to a roulette. All i can say to that is i hope SE rectifies the situation with Cape Westwind when the reorganize the roulette.

Cape Westwind is in the trial roulette, i've gotten it several times.

[Whiteroom]

Surprised how many people seem to just be choosing to ignore the features being added to 2.XX duties/trials, that'll make getting through storyline content extremely easy.

For the umpteenth time, in 3.0, we'll be able to enter 2.xx content with no lvl/ilvl sync, and with no party size restriction. So for all of you crying that you'll have to wait 30 hours for a queue, wait a week or two, grab an FC buddy who is lvl 60, and steam roll the content.



Cape Westwind is in the trial roulette, i've gotten it several times.

Because they don't care. Their argument isn't one they care about. They have alternate reasons for wanting their people in.

[Tuathaa]

So for all of you crying that you'll have to wait 30 hours for a queue, wait a week or two, grab an FC buddy who is lvl 60, and steam roll the content

Wouldn't that kind of bypass the reason behind the gating?
The msq is to the point now people just blow through it and don't pay attention to the story or are forced to skip the cut scenes.

[Blood-Aki]

Wouldn't that kind of bypass the reason behind the gating?
The msq is to the point now people just blow through it and don't pay attention to the story or are forced to skip the cut scenes.

If people don't pay attention to the story Or skip the CSs (no one is forcing them, if they actually enjoy the story, nothing will stop them from watching CSs) they weren't very interested to begin with. RPGS are about stories. at least... they are supposed to be..it seems silly to get all the way to heavesward and you have 0 clue what lead you to that point. but i think that is what this entire topic as aiming for. (i dont care for the story, just get me to the stuff)

[Tuathaa]

but i think that is what this entire topic as aiming for. (i dont care for the story, just get me to the stuff)

Actually the topic is people who have solely concentrated on dol/doh classes (a play style condoned and encouraged by SE) with minimal combat classes/ability/experience not being able to go into Ishgard and farm mats and craft at their respective max level.
No one said give me stuff they have just been saying let me go kill trees and pick up rocks in the new area at level 50.