Please Allow 50's to Enter Ishgard w/o having completed MSQ

[Catwho]

Queue time for trials or anything on DF a bitch now? Not sure if i can agree with that. I only came back to FFXIV after a 2 year break and started doing my MSQ from patch 2.1. Queued for Levi, Ramur, Shiva and some newer dungeons from Patch 2.3 onwards and all of the queue time were less than 10 mins as a BLM. Not sure if this is server population issue but i believe DF scans across all servers for players so that shouldn't be a problem.

It does. Most Duty Finders pull from across 4-5 different servers, I think about half of them in each data center. So even if only 2 people from your server need a trial right this minute, it can match you with the other 6 people on the other 4 servers that also need it, and boom you're good.

[Ronyx]

It wont happen and Im glad its like this the story is good and should be seen and get access to it. Maybe they will allow a skip but much later on when 4.0 is release but then you will need to do 3.0 content to reach 4.0 XD.

[EdwinLi]

It wont happen and Im glad its like this the story is good and should be seen and get access to it. Maybe they will allow a skip but much later on when 4.0 is release but then you will need to do 3.0 content to reach 4.0 XD.

If they allow a skip in 4.0 era it may be a Starting Timeline choice option thing.

For example..

If in 4.0, New Adventurers may choose to start out in 2.0 era (complete 2.X and 3.X era to enter 4.0 era but gives them Special Legacy Dialogues to show they took part in 2.X/3.X era Arc)
or
New Adventurer start in 4.0 era where the 4.0 Adventurer did not take part in 2.0 or 3.0 era events thus given slightly different dialogue and Intro events in their 4.0 storyline.

Though it would be a matter if SE can make 4.0 a storyline have dialogues affected by if the WoL is a 1.0/2.0/3.0 Adventurer, thus giving them Legacy Dialogues in 4.0, or a 4.0 Adventurer that has just arrived in Eorzea after the events of 3.X.

However, best bet for now is that 4.0 may require 3.X era like how 3.0 requires 2.X era as a simple way to not create alternate dialogues for 4.0.

[Nadirah]

It does. Most Duty Finders pull from across 4-5 different servers, I think about half of them in each data center. So even if only 2 people from your server need a trial right this minute, it can match you with the other 6 people on the other 4 servers that also need it, and boom you're good.

Westwind was over an hour to find the second tank.

[Nadirah]

@Dread, I can skip all of the main game of Skyrim and blow through Dragonborn DLC around level 10 if I don't want to do Alduin on a new toon.

Trials I'm concerned with: not primals.

Westwind, praetorium, castrum.

All were obnoxious during prime time. I can imagine before noon Pacific sucking more.

[Reiryuu]

@Dread, I can skip all of the main game of Skyrim and blow through Dragonborn DLC around level 10 if I don't want to do Alduin on a new toon.

Trials I'm concerned with: not primals.

Westwind, praetorium, castrum.

All were obnoxious during prime time. I can imagine before noon Pacific sucking more.

The Dragonborn DLC doesn't really continue the main story of Skyrim though, HW does. Between FCs, Party Finder and that it really isn't hard to find people willing to help you provided you actually use all the tools available to you. I mean, sitting in DF and whining to yourself that the queue time is so long doesn't really convey to other people in your FC or server that you need help for this duty. I tend to join groups like this on Valefor when I see them and they usually fill up pretty quickly especially when they're advertised.

[Tuathaa]

Queue time for trials or anything on DF a bitch now? Not sure if i can agree with that. I only came back to FFXIV after a 2 year break and started doing my MSQ from patch 2.1. Queued for Levi, Ramur, Shiva and some newer dungeons from Patch 2.3 onwards and all of the queue time were less than 10 mins as a BLM. Not sure if this is server population issue but i believe DF scans across all servers for players so that shouldn't be a problem.

Glad you got in fast. As dps the fastest q I have ever had in df was 45 min with the exception of sof but I did that shortly after it came out and it was still 20+ min.

[SakuraMidori]

At this point, I am questioning if some of you just aren't putting up a fight for the sake of fighting.

From what iv read here most of them just say 1 they don't like sitting thru the story again that or on there poor dps the wait times are so bad {longest i wait on my ninja or dragoon now a days in 20min and that's at 3am} to me it looks like they are lazy or they just don't want or care about the story. Lol and that's to bad since this game has always blocked you out of stuff until you beat parts of the story. a lot of my good friends yes that are new love unlocking stuff by beating the story {i my self find the story a lil boring but don't mind beating it a few times}

[Duuude007]

Westwind, praetorium, castrum.

Well let's look at this realistically.

First:
Westwind is unique between these three in that it is a true trial, and not a story dungeon.


This means that if more people do trial roulettes, they will inevitably be doing Cape Westwind as well.

Right now nobody has incentive to do trial roulettes more than once a day, and only for a modest amount of poetics tomestones.
in 3.0, they will also benefit from the XP bonuses for all of this high level content which used to offer zero XP, zero specifically because we were already level capped.

I do recall even getting baby ifrit in the trial roulette on my ninja while i was leveling and the xp awarded... was enormous.

So if we are going to be realistic, trial roulettes will make clearing westwind among others quite easily. Regardless of the party config, thanks to the fact you can enter without 2 tanks, for example.

Second:
As for CM and praet... you are in the midst of a community dillema here.

Group A says they are new and deserve to be allowed to stop progressing to watch cutscenes.
Group B has done these dungeons 500+ times and just wants to speed run them.

Group A says to fix it, SE should take away incentives from group B so that they don't enter. This would result in Group B leaving and you waiting in queue longer.
The other alternative would be to add MORE incentives, but that would result in Group B being a stronger majority in these parties, and as majority decides strategy, more people in group A will be forced to speed run instead of observing cutscenes at their own pace.

Both sides have valid points, and no solution seems to be in sight. Unless you can come up with something. You do seem to be full of solutions yourself, after all.

[Onikimaru]

From what iv read here most of them just say 1 they don't like sitting thru the story again that or on there poor dps the wait times are so bad {longest i wait on my ninja or dragoon now a days in 20min and that's at 3am} to me it looks like they are lazy or they just don't want or care about the story. Lol and that's to bad since this game has always blocked you out of stuff until you beat parts of the story. a lot of my good friends yes that are new love unlocking stuff by beating the story {i my self find the story a lil boring but don't mind beating it a few times}

Lucky you :P. I had my friends quit because of how "grindy" the start of this game is, safe to say even though they are my friends i told them. This is an MMO what did you expect?, to start and be finished in 3-4 hours?, no!. It doesn't work like that.

I tried telling them the benefits of reaching level 50 but they just would not listen and or said "that is stupid it takes too long" "this game sucks stuff this" one of them wouldn't even unlock their job because "it's a stupid mechanic"... It just boggles my mind how effing lazy people are these days and how they just want everything instantly.