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  1. #571
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    W'fharl Tia
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    SE's officially-stated position on this matter has nothing to do with societal norms, morals, or the legitimacy of cross-dressing.

    /thread
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  2. #572
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    /thread
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  3. #573
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    facepalm GIF
    Excuse me. /tangent

    The thread itself was never supposed to have anything to do with... that.
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  4. #574
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    Anyway the op did say this yes? { I'll just clarify here that I am a straight female playing a male character} so this thread is not about cross dressing and or pride rights but more about as what they want to see as a girl. And i guess they want to see guys in dresses so ho ra lets keep it on that track no more pride rights and crap as long as it's not about cross dressing rights we don't need to get into our world views. That said from here lets keep it on track ^^
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    Last edited by SakuraMidori; 06-14-2015 at 08:52 AM.

  5. #575
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiba View Post
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    Not sure why you seem to be of the opinion that individuals with secular views are without morals or without a standard of reference to draw moral conclusions. Secular morality is a thing you know.
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  6. #576
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    E'rock Lledo
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    Not sure why you seem to be of the opinion that individuals with secular views are without morals or without a standard of reference to draw moral conclusions. Secular morality is a thing you know.
    Hardly....
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  7. #577
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiba View Post
    Hardly....
    Hardly what? I take it you deny secular morality?
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  8. #578
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    Gilraen Bior
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    I think the point that's being missed here is, is it any more moral to tell people how they should be as it is to not? I saw a good argument made in the surgery reference then, in practically the same sentence, shat upon with a comment about how it would be wrong... So what if it's 'insane', it's their decision, their body, let them do with it what they will. There is no 'moral obligation' here beyond keeping your nose out of it. Besides, this thread isn't about morality, it's about a dress. A dress on a male character. And it looks good on them. But if you feel it's 'too far' then you're a little late to the boat. Case in point, Flame Elite Caster. Seriously, check it out if you can. Me, I hope Square sees the originator's work and considers it.
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  9. #579
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    Doki Kodoki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiba View Post
    The dev team has already chimed in on this. They already plan on making more male exclusive gear.
    Yeah, they did.
    Then they went ahead and made that exclusive gear unisex anyway.
    This was the first gearset released since that announcement.
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  10. #580
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    Terrini Littlebottom
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    So I took a shot at a masculine redesign for the gear. Sorry for being horrible at art, I think my design is good though.

    This is my male Hyur Alt acting as model :P I think he looks good... I would totally want that top.
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    ~Terra-chan~

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