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  1. #441
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    Duuude007's Avatar
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Hyperion
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    Armorer Lv 80
    As a side note-

    All of the people fully caught up on MSQ have zero access to the 2.0 xp benefits.

    This means when they level up the new jobs, they cannot exploit MSQ to level faster and get those jobs to 50.

    In the OP's dreams, a DoH/DoL bot could get the jobs on day one and have unlimited access to the 2.0 xp benefits.

    This means when they level up the new jobs, they can skip working on DoW/DoM levels 11-30, they can exploit MSQ to level faster and get those jobs to 50 BEFORE veteran players, in the same alotted time.

    So bots can access leves and dailies faster. Which means they can cap DoH/DoL faster. Which means they can control the market faster than even the most hardcore players.

    Screwing with our economy. Massively.

    And some say its a means to "let people play how they want without as many gates". hah.
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    Last edited by Duuude007; 06-11-2015 at 06:21 AM.

  2. #442
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    I completed the entire 2.0-2.1 main story in 2 days with a lvl 50 character. Its not that hard. And I mean, from the level 5 quest to the level 50 quests.

    (old 1.0 char, how it was level 50)

    the quests themselves don't take very long to complete. With the xp boost they are giving to the MSQ's, it will probably go pretty quickly for newbies.
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  3. #443
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    Rath's Avatar
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    Jagged Phoenix
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    Coeurl
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
    Lol, I bet none of her arguments included, "But! But! I don't want to run all my bots through the MSQ!"

    But seriously, you should report her, deserves it for botting, and deserves it more for trying to get them to change the game so she can continue to. Let the door hit her on the butt on the way out.
    She has been reported by quite a few people. She talks about it on vent (in a ls I am in), but not in chat. Some of her like-minded friends are in the same boat and will probably all just party up.
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  4. #444
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    Raist's Avatar
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    Raist Soulforge
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    Midgardsormr
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    Devs have already said they are adding a new feature to the 2.XX Duties, that'll allow you to enter them with less than required party size, and with no lvl/ilvl sync. So if you are stuck on say Westwind, just get a lvl60/ilvl170 sch to come and duo it with you.
    Don't underestimate the benefit of these simple changes. IDK how many people we ushered through finalizing ZM/CoP/TAU/WotG with just one or two high-end players carrying them through the content. This is a real game changer for the new players to get help with these things.
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  5. #445
    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Raist View Post
    Don't underestimate the benefit of these simple changes. IDK how many people we ushered through finalizing ZM/CoP/TAU/WotG with just one or two high-end players carrying them through the content. This is a real game changer for the new players to get help with these things.
    You're assuming people will help.

    I don't ask for help, most certainly not when they have things for *their* characters to do.

    Friend I'm concerned for is *my* responsibility.
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  6. #446
    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuga View Post
    My point, exactly.



    I'm not sure what the point is that you're trying to make?

    High level players queue up for the trials and MSQ dailies, and there will be a significant influx of new/returning players who will either need those clears, or will need the currency/exp from these roulettes. That's without mentioning help from FC members, friends, and party finder, all of which will make clearing dungeons and trials MUCH easier thanks to the removal of the level and party member restrictions on 2.x content.
    If there were folks doing it I wouldn't have spent an hour waiting on a second tank until I called a friend and bribed him to tank it.
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  7. #447
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    Duuude007's Avatar
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    If there were folks doing it I wouldn't have spent an hour waiting on a second tank until I called a friend and bribed him to tank it.
    See, there's your issue.
    No progression instances NEED a 2nd tank. Its just easier if one goes down the other can take over.
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  8. #448
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    reillyblair's Avatar
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    Narbondel Deviir
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    bloody stupid idea its meant to be part of the story dont like it theres plenty of other mmos lol
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  9. #449
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    Raist Soulforge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    You're assuming people will help.

    I don't ask for help, most certainly not when they have things for *their* characters to do.

    Friend I'm concerned for is *my* responsibility.
    Guess you're one of those "glass is half empty" types or something. I just prefer to think there would be people out there that would be willing to help others out if they asked. I expect there will be some that want to flex their muscles just see what they can faceroll as well. Yes, a few lower level players may get abused a bit in the process while the heroes see if they can stomp through a dungeon low-manning it--but if they figure out a way to do it and they allow a new player to tag along, they are in fact doing something fun for themselves as well as helping those new players out are they not?

    Peeps in my XI LS did just these kinds of things on a regular basis when SE lifted the restrictions there. I expect we have a few in my FC that will do the same as well. To each his own.

    Just depends on your view in life I guess... some choose to look on the brighter side of life sometimes.
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  10. #450
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    Hulvein Wyrmblood
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raist View Post
    Just depends on your view in life I guess... some choose to look on the brighter side of life sometimes.
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