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  1. #431
    Player
    Dalvy's Avatar
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    Ysera Dei-ijla
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    Goblin
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    Thaumaturge Lv 71
    Just do it. We grinded through the story line for all of 2.0; New players can grind through MSQ for a few days. It won't kill you to wait a week or two to get into new content. Do not forget that FF is heavily invested in the RPG department.
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  2. #432
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    T'erra Branford
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rath View Post
    I am glad you have to level a battle class to 50. I know someone with 7 alts that have lvl 10 battle classes that she bots with. She is quite pissed with this. She has also posted in this topic lol. This puts her out of business for new gathering nodes until she catches up.
    Lol, I bet none of her arguments included, "But! But! I don't want to run all my bots through the MSQ!"

    But seriously, you should report her, deserves it for botting, and deserves it more for trying to get them to change the game so she can continue to. Let the door hit her on the butt on the way out.
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  3. #433
    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    What?

    Sub 3.0 content will not have mandatory 8 to progress... theyve said this on numerous occasions.

    These players can also DF and get priority placement in 'new' instances, which means anyone doing roulettes will be assigned very quickly with these people, over those who are grinding a specific trial repeatedly.
    Let's see..

    Westwind
    Castrum
    Steps
    HM primals

    All required for MSQ.

    All that priority queue in the world isn't going to fix the problem when there are not enough tanks and healers in the queue.

    I think some of you underestimate the number of new folks are going to come in. Not enough to fill the gaps.
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  4. #434
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    FrejyaAthenes's Avatar
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    Freyja Alfodr
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    Let's see..

    Westwind
    Castrum
    Steps
    HM primals

    All required for MSQ.

    All that priority queue in the world isn't going to fix the problem when there are not enough tanks and healers in the queue.

    I think some of you underestimate the number of new folks are going to come in. Not enough to fill the gaps.
    Wouldn't that be overestimating, then?
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  5. #435
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    Zorlinta's Avatar
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    Zorlinta Freespirit
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    Zodiark
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    Fisher Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuga View Post
    This thread is not about helping newbies. There's plenty that you can do to help them with the 2.55 gate intact. This thread's about helping players with crafting and gathering mules to get a head start on controlling the market for new 3.0 items more quickly.
    NO THX, they must go in slowly in after progressing. Why you would want lots of mules in headstart? it will only benefit the richer ones. Will be fairer to everyone (though maybe slightly easier for those with i90 doh/dol items) to level up from 50 to 60 and get "together" the new recipes/equipment.
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  6. #436
    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by FrejyaAthenes View Post
    Wouldn't that be overestimating, then?
    Not when you're thinking they'll mostly be tanks and healers.

    "Oh they get priority first time theyll be fine" not if they aren't tank/heal.
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  7. #437
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Hyperion
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    Armorer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    Let's see..
    snip
    I think you are underestimating what an influx of people is going to do to the community... or the specific changes HW is creating.

    Let's see..

    Westwind - Trial roulette will prioritize new players with roulette players. Because of this, odds of queueing with people grinding one instance repeatedly, will diminish significantly.
    Castrum - People still spam this to get Livia cards and roulette this for ...really...easy...tomes. Same for Praetorium. Today people complain all the time that the majority of people are NOT new and just want to rush through these dungeons.
    Steps - See Westwind above.
    HM primals - See Westwind above. And weapon desynths.

    Trust me, there is no need to panic about this thing which... isn't even a thing in HW...
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  8. #438
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    FrejyaAthenes's Avatar
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    Freyja Alfodr
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    Not when you're thinking they'll mostly be tanks and healers.

    "Oh they get priority first time theyll be fine" not if they aren't tank/heal.
    Mostly, no. A fair amount, maybe. I don't even know how many new people have preordered let alone what they'll be.
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  9. #439
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    Tsuga Lem
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zorlinta View Post
    NO THX, they must go in slowly in after progressing. Why you would want lots of mules in headstart? it will only benefit the richer ones. Will be fairer to everyone (though maybe slightly easier for those with i90 doh/dol items) to level up from 50 to 60 and get "together" the new recipes/equipment.
    My point, exactly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    Let's see..

    Westwind
    Castrum
    Steps
    HM primals

    All required for MSQ.

    All that priority queue in the world isn't going to fix the problem when there are not enough tanks and healers in the queue.

    I think some of you underestimate the number of new folks are going to come in. Not enough to fill the gaps.
    I'm not sure what the point is that you're trying to make?

    High level players queue up for the trials and MSQ dailies, and there will be a significant influx of new/returning players who will either need those clears, or will need the currency/exp from these roulettes. That's without mentioning help from FC members, friends, and party finder, all of which will make clearing dungeons and trials MUCH easier thanks to the removal of the level and party member restrictions on 2.x content.
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  10. #440
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    Gralna's Avatar
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    Gralya Arodica
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    Let's see..

    Westwind
    Castrum
    Steps
    HM primals

    All required for MSQ.

    All that priority queue in the world isn't going to fix the problem when there are not enough tanks and healers in the queue.

    I think some of you underestimate the number of new folks are going to come in. Not enough to fill the gaps.
    Devs have already said they are adding a new feature to the 2.XX Duties, that'll allow you to enter them with less than required party size, and with no lvl/ilvl sync. So if you are stuck on say Westwind, just get a lvl60/ilvl170 sch to come and duo it with you.
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