Please Allow 50's to Enter Ishgard w/o having completed MSQ

[Radacci]

No, I'd rather not. It wouldn't make sense in the story and if you want to skip the story in a game then final fantasy is not the series for you.
Furthermore it lock away a lot of content that would be too difficult for inexperienced players. Currently the bears in dravania pose a threat to people who cleared steps of faith, which has a minimum item level of 100 I think? or maybe 110? I don't think fresh 50-s with artifact armor and a below 50 item level would enjoy the scenery that much
And there are the classes. I have ran ex roulette with people I wouldn't trust with the responsibility of handling a complex class like machinist or astrologian.
So, no I think the lockout is fine the way it is.

oh but you trust everyone who cleared Sof? cause we know that no one got carried.
being locked out or not, doesn't change a thing; those that can handle ast/mch, can do so without being locked out, those that can't, wouldn't even if they got past SoF.

And by your logic, we should lock out Hunts behind 2.55 story, cause it's to challenging for inexperienced players?

[Reynhart]

Hunts [...] challenging

Best joke ever !

[sirDarts]

oh but you trust everyone who cleared Sof? cause we know that no one got carried.
being locked out or not, doesn't change a thing; those that can handle ast/mch, can do so without being locked out, those that can't, wouldn't even if they got past SoF.

And by your logic, we should lock out Hunts behind 2.55 story, cause it's to challenging for inexperienced players?

There will always be people who got carried, who are bad. But there will be way less of them if you lock out new players from challenging content.

Also Hunts? Maybe A and S, but "elite marks" are easy as hell, I have soloed those with sub-lvl 50 gear.

[Radacci]

Best joke ever !

There will always be people who got carried, who are bad. But there will be way less of them if you lock out new players from challenging content.

Also Hunts? Maybe A and S, but "elite marks" are easy as hell, I have soloed those with sub-lvl 50 gear.

Yes i meant S ranks mostly
I'd like to see a party of inexperienced players take on Bonnacon or Hellsclaw for that matter.

AST and MCH don't count as challenging content. Locking them out behind entire 2.X MSQ, is just silly.
There's plenty of better reasons to lock them out. Throughout pretty much every FF title, with multiple jobs, there has ALWAYS been jobs that you can't start off as, for different reasons. In FF-Tactics, there's tiers of jobs you need to unlock, and hidden characters you can get on your team; some are hidden behind side-quests. So it's not a problem that they are locked out from new players, but the whole "prevent them from doing it cause they must first learn how to clear SoF" is just ridiculous - you don't need to clear SoF, to be able to AST. Shitty AST is still gonna be shitty, regardless.

[Reynhart]

I'd like to see a party of inexperienced players take on Bonnacon or Hellsclaw for that matter.

They can...since they're s a whole bunch of people joining them to roll over S ranks in under a minute.

I actually managed to earn seals and tomestones (Not full benefit, of course), with a level 10 CNJ on an S rank.

Throughout pretty much every FF title, with multiple jobs, there has ALWAYS been jobs that you can't start off as, for different reasons.

In FF III and V, pretty much all jobs are tied to the main story. Not a big deal.
Besides, theses "new players" already have a lot of content to do, it's not like Heavensward will be the only thing to wander from them.

[kyuven]

They can...since they're s a whole bunch of people joining them to roll over S ranks in under a minute.

Saying an encounter is "easy" because 100 people can dogpile on it is like saying climbing a mountain is "easy" because you can just take a helicopter to the top.

[Reynhart]

Saying an encounter is "easy" because 100 people can dogpile on it is like saying climbing a mountain is "easy" because you can just take a helicopter to the top.

Except when that encounter is always done the same way.

Climbing a mountain is easy if a company made a cable-car service available for anybody for free

[Radacci]

They can...since they're s a whole bunch of people joining them to roll over S ranks in under a minute.

I actually managed to earn seals and tomestones (Not full benefit, of course), with a level 10 CNJ on an S rank.

i said inexperienced party, not including a zerg wave.
but ok, lets take chimera treasure-map then. or are you gonna include external healers, that can heal-bomb everyone?

In FF III and V, pretty much all jobs are tied to the main story. Not a big deal.
Besides, theses "new players" already have a lot of content to do, it's not like Heavensward will be the only thing to wander from them.

that's still not a good reason to lock them out of it, just cause there's other things to do. they can lock gold saucer behind 2.55 then, cause there's other things to do.

[Reynhart]

that's still not a good reason to lock them out of it, just cause there's other things to do.

THE good reason, or actually the best reason for a Final Fantasy game, is the lore.

It's already pretty stupid to unlock Ninja withtout having beaten Leviathan, when the MSQ clearly says that this fighting style is from a foreign country and Yugiri especially offers to teach us.
Like it's stupid that eveybody will be able to play as an Au Ra whereas their existence is clearly a plot point.

[Velhart]

THE good reason, or actually the best reason for a Final Fantasy game, is the lore.

It's already pretty stupid to unlock Ninja withtout having beaten Leviathan, when the MSQ clearly says that this fighting style is from a foreign country and Yugiri especially offers to teach us.
Like it's stupid that eveybody will be able to play as an Au Ra whereas their existence is clearly a plot point.

There is likely some lore like reason that gives it a pass, even if it may be a poor one. If I can give this game credit for anything, the lore team always has an explanation or reasoning for something even if on the surface it does not make sense.