Please Allow 50's to Enter Ishgard w/o having completed MSQ

[Raist]

That isnt exactly true now is it?
You dont have to progress to a certain point in the msq you have to complete it.

Now you are just arguing semantics, aren't you? If you want to be technical about it... they aren't finishing the story if they are just starting out now, as the MSQ is continuing into a new chapter. So they are working their way up through the end of Before the Fall in order to progress into Heavensward, and beyond into what ever they add from v3.1 going forward.

[Whiteroom]

That isnt exactly true now is it?
You dont have to progress to a certain point in the msq you have to complete it.

Well, given that they are adding more MSQ, you do not have to complete it. It seems far from over to me...

[Nekodar]

HW areas are likely to open up free for all only after several major patches, when the HW story have progressed enough that it makes sense to open up more.
Ishgard itself will be open early, but not the surrounding areas.

The only players I see miffed about this, honestly, are those with crafter alts built to cover the whole desynth spectrum today, and the whole specialization spectrum with HW.

[Raist]

Well, given that they are adding more MSQ, you do not have to complete it. It seems far from over to me...

Think that is the source of the big disconnect here. This isn't a side-story type of expansion---it is continuing the story. It just makes sense that new people would need to start at the beginning and work through it. Heavensward isn't a sort of stand-alone component--it builds off everything that came before it...so you need to do what came first before you start it.

[Whiteroom]

Think that is the source of the big disconnect here. This isn't a side-story type of expansion---it is continuing the story. It just makes sense that new people would need to start at the beginning and work through it. Heavensward isn't a sort of stand-alone component--it builds off everything that came before it...so you need to do what came first before you start it.

But!

But!

I want it now!

On a more serious note. The story feels to me like we are still barely out of the starting gates on a really epic adventure. Ijust hope the game stays alive long enough to tell the whole thing. I mean, we havent even left one continent yet. lots more to come.

[Gunspec]

Ishgard is an exclusive club. Just like some clubs won't let you in the door if you aren't known in hollywood, Ishgard won't let you in unless you've been accused of regicide. And no, moogle kings don't count.

You all just want to rub shoulders with the criminally accused, but you need to EARN that privilege.

[Spawnie]

Are you sure? Most in this thread seem to think a new player is only concerned with creating a specfic class that they have no idea about. In a game where they have no experiece. They don't care about the huge experience you get with playing through the game and story. They only say "Hey, this game has a class called Machinist! I'm going to buy it!"

imo they are just using the "new player" excuse in hopes SE think hold on they might be on to somethin here lol if a group of new players feel that way guaranteed it will be the minority of them... i know when i buy a new game or download 1 i havent tried with friends im more excited for a new gaming experince not what class i cant play yet lol

[Tuathaa]

Think that is the source of the big disconnect here. This isn't a side-story type of expansion---it is continuing the story. It just makes sense that new people would need to start at the beginning and work through it. Heavensward isn't a sort of stand-alone component--it builds off everything that came before it...so you need to do what came first before you start it.

With that philosophy then no one should be able to raid any content or do any dungeons until they have finished all the raids and dungeons up to HW.

[Onikimaru]

Yeah i've been saying this for awhile now. I have pretty much everything done in ARR, i have an alt that is almost finished with the MSQ. But even though i am fine, i really do sympathize with people that are disappointed they aren't able to play their favorite FF jobs straight away. I know why SE has done this though, and i guess not everything should be handed out but damn.

[Kewitt]

I'm ok with this, but they can't do any DoW or DoM quests. Main story Quest.. and require 99 HQ 4 star items for DoH or 3 Star HQ DoL


The main reason for the Lock out is RMTs

Time it take for RMT to get to 50 + main story quest + make gil in HW only to get banned. Will slow down RMTs