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  1. #311
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    Aeyis's Avatar
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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorciechan View Post
    Thank you. I was just gonna point that out. But, I was beginning to wonder whether I should argue with someone who's prejudice against Americans is so that he inaccurately blames the country for a style that lasted before America was even much of one.

    @ Sakei - Many probably failed history in high school (if they even finished it).
    Slavery was also a worldwide thing that was the norm for thousands of years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sorciechan View Post

    @ Sakei - Many probably failed history in high school (if they even finished it).
    History is what happend in the past. Not what the future should look like.
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  2. #312
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    TrickedOutHoro's Avatar
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    Zephyr Winds
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    wordy wordy words
    You can stop pretending to understand a culture that you know nothing about now. Thanks.
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  3. #313
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    Charlotte Elise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    Slavery was also a worldwide thing that was the norm for thousands of years.
    Are you comparing slavery to gendered clothing? Really?
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  4. #314
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    Sorciechan's Avatar
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    Saliene Ridde
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    Really? We're comparing fashion styles with slavery?

    ...yup, this is why you're not getting your man-dress.

    I'm done. If you all are going to make fallacies and call them arguments, I am not going to try to join in them.
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  5. #315
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Are you comparing slavery to gendered clothing? Really?
    Well it's an extreme example but it isn't wrong. It was "normal" to see back then.
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  6. #316
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear View Post
    Well it's an extreme example but it isn't wrong. It was "normal" to see back then.
    His/her claim of it being the norm for thousands of years was in response to someone claiming it was an American thing. I don't see how bringing up slavery is relevant to argument.
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  7. #317
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    His/her claim of it being the norm for thousands of years was in response to someone claiming it was an American thing. I don't see how bringing up slavery is relevant to argument.
    I could go into details on this but I'd really rather not derail the thread any further. I feel like that happens all to often and I know that if I reply it'd bring someone else in and we'd likely get locked, the OP did a smashing job with his edits so I'd rather leave this here and ask that we bring the thread back on topic.
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  8. #318
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorciechan View Post
    Really? We're comparing fashion styles with slavery?

    ...yup, this is why you're not getting your man-dress.

    I'm done. If you all are going to make fallacies and call them arguments, I am not going to try to join in them.
    Someone earlier in the thread compared men wearing feminine clothes to child pornography, people can say extrem things no matter their opinion. Only one person mentioned slavery, it doesn't mean that all people who want this dress in this thread agrees with them /facepalm
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    Last edited by Ymal; 06-08-2015 at 05:14 AM.

  9. #319
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    C'alih Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    you kinda missed the point.
    female fits in male clothes, cause male clothes are uni-sex, fem clothes aren't.
    A guy would need to transgender, to fit into fem clothes, while she doesn't have to; She could have skipped the facial hair, and been Jackie Sparrow.
    And yet I keep seeing well-endowed women cosplaying as male characters. And while I don't at all begrudge them the right to cosplay as their favourite character, just as I'm not saying those pictures posted of the guys in obviously female cosplay outfits should never have existed, I can't say that it looks good. So no, being female doesn't automatically mean you look good in male outfits, just as being male doesn't automatically mean you look bad in female outfits.

    And transgender has nothing to do with body type :3 Transgender is about your gender identity, whether you identify as your biological gender or not. There are transgender women (born male) who are big and burly, and there are transgender men (born female) who have hourglass figures.

    Also... regarding more 'feminine' body types... Have you looked at the body types we have in this game? Apart from highlanders and roegadyns, all of the men are fairly slender and thus wouldn't have any problem fitting into their girlfriend's clothes.
    (As always, lalafells are a case of their own, since neither gender is especially feminine or masculine.)


    Quote Originally Posted by R-Kine View Post
    I'm OK with having a "male version" of this set, but what this thread is asking for is as ridiculous as me asking the DEVs to remove bras from open chested equipment like harnesses.
    Well, good news! There is a male version of this set planned to be included in the game. It's this one:


    The problem? It's not male-exclusive, but unisex.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zhexos View Post
    Currently there are many pieces of male equipment that can be altered to be worn by the female characters, but certain equipment specific to females cannot be adjusted for males due to the differences in the character models.
    Well, I have the solution... Make all clothes for the male body, then adjust them to fit the female body. Problem eliminated.
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    Last edited by Noxifer; 06-08-2015 at 07:19 AM.

  10. #320
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    Rena Cebe
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    I'm all out of popcorn already...

    I wonder if people on JP side are also arguing about opinions...

    Don't feed the trolls.

    P.S. I'm all for more options.
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