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    Quote Originally Posted by Oce View Post
    The sexist comments come from the fact that female characters get more clothing options than men, as "exclusive" male gear is quickly made available to girls because "they'd look so cute in it!!" but "exclusive" female gear remains exclusive to the ladies.

    Why are people calling this a dress though it's clearly a skirt.
    And I never said I was against a male ver. of that female outfit, just not to make it look like the male tried his best to wiggle into something he shouldn't have tried to wiggle into.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorciechan View Post
    And I never said I was against a male ver. of that female outfit, just not to make it look like the male tried his best to wiggle into something he shouldn't have tried to wiggle into.
    I happen to like how it looks, and would be pretty disappointed if they changed it to pants or something. Gendered clothing is such a silly, American-Centric thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oce View Post
    I happen to like how it looks, and would be pretty disappointed if they changed it to pants or something. Gendered clothing is such a silly, American-Centric thing.
    What? Gendered clothing is a worldwide thing that has been the norm for thousands of years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    What? Gendered clothing is a worldwide thing that has been the norm for thousands of years.
    Thank you. I was just gonna point that out. But, I was beginning to wonder whether I should argue with someone who's prejudice against Americans is so that he inaccurately blames the country for a style that lasted before America was even much of one.

    @ Sakei - Many probably failed history in high school (if they even finished it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorciechan View Post
    Thank you. I was just gonna point that out. But, I was beginning to wonder whether I should argue with someone who's prejudice against Americans is so that he inaccurately blames the country for a style that lasted before America was even much of one.

    @ Sakei - Many probably failed history in high school (if they even finished it).
    Slavery was also a worldwide thing that was the norm for thousands of years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sorciechan View Post

    @ Sakei - Many probably failed history in high school (if they even finished it).
    History is what happend in the past. Not what the future should look like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    Slavery was also a worldwide thing that was the norm for thousands of years.
    Are you comparing slavery to gendered clothing? Really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Are you comparing slavery to gendered clothing? Really?
    Well it's an extreme example but it isn't wrong. It was "normal" to see back then.
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    Really? We're comparing fashion styles with slavery?

    ...yup, this is why you're not getting your man-dress.

    I'm done. If you all are going to make fallacies and call them arguments, I am not going to try to join in them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorciechan View Post
    Really? We're comparing fashion styles with slavery?

    ...yup, this is why you're not getting your man-dress.

    I'm done. If you all are going to make fallacies and call them arguments, I am not going to try to join in them.
    Someone earlier in the thread compared men wearing feminine clothes to child pornography, people can say extrem things no matter their opinion. Only one person mentioned slavery, it doesn't mean that all people who want this dress in this thread agrees with them /facepalm
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    Last edited by Ymal; 06-08-2015 at 05:14 AM.

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    OMG ppl need to stop the crazy hate and random crap. I'm in shock this threads still around but let me point something out to ppl you want men in dresses yes? some don't yes? then let SE pic as it's up to them but if you think about it really are guys wearing dresses norm? no not really how many jobs out there will let men wear a dress? how many schools will let guys show up in a full on dress? not many if any. The fact is it's not the norm now if you go to a pride day parade then sure it's very norm but you can't push your ways of thinking or life on the world deal with it and move on.
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