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    My whole point was if they allowed Decimals in macros my skills would flow together even better, without any kind of delay at all. As for the damage combos its not even a big deal, I can actually tolerate it just fine. The issue I am running into is buffs such as Power Surge into Jump like I stated. Using the macros how they are now requires an unnecessary wait which makes it difficult to weave in between Thrust Combos. However, I have remedied this by removing the wait timer all together and simply double tapping the button.

    As for the question of did it ever work this way...yes actually it did in the beginning. SE made a post about how they were removing it because Bots were abusing the macro system to spam people, and thus they would be removing the ability. It was a shotty excuse because truth be told the bots could care less if they have to wait 2.25 secs to spam or 3.. but I do.. and I know several other ps4 friends and company mates that do also.
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    This has been discussed many many times before, using macros especially for dps is a loss.
    I also play on PS4 and absolute only class i do need and use macros for is scholar as i need more then 2 hotbars and it seems to get messed up if i try and use multiple ones. Like it does not tab back to the menu i want at times, etc..
    But if it works for you that is what matters really
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbital-Dragon View Post
    this method just allows me to keep everything on one cross bar instead of trying to flip through them.
    You can have almost all your DRG skills on one crossbar at lvl50, you get about 16+3 major skills. You can choose which 16 you want on a bar. Losing 3 skills is going to be less of a DPS loss than using macros, since the waits round up to 3.
    If its pressing buttons that bothers you rather than flipping skill bars well ... I don't know. They designed it so that you have to keep pressing buttons if you want to do good damage even though it can be mindless sometimes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orbital-Dragon View Post
    My whole point was if they allowed Decimals in macros my skills would flow together even better
    I think this is exactly what SE doesn't want you to do

    Quote Originally Posted by Orbital-Dragon View Post
    As for the question of did it ever work this way...yes actually it did in the beginning. SE made a post about how they were removing it because Bots were abusing the macro system to spam people, and thus they would be removing the ability.
    Can I have source
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    Last edited by Sylkis; 06-07-2015 at 05:50 PM.

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    I can not find the absolute original post, but here is a Dev post explaining why they took it away in the first place. During beta phases you could easily use a Decimal in your macro, and there was a strong push for the allowance of more than one decimal but SE decided to do the exact opposite. Even in this post it claims they are not close minded to changes revolving around the system.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1520788
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbital-Dragon View Post
    I can not find the absolute original post, but here is a Dev post explaining why they took it away in the first place. During beta phases you could easily use a Decimal in your macro, and there was a strong push for the allowance of more than one decimal but SE decided to do the exact opposite. Even in this post it claims they are not close minded to changes revolving around the system.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1520788
    Sounds like what you're asking for goes against point 3 of their macro policy.
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    Having the option to put the lines into queue automatically one after the other would be nice as well; no delay, even as Skill Speed goes into final decimals, and pulling out of melee range wouldn't cost you the middle move of your combo, etc. Even without the built-in nerf to macros I doubt I'd find them useful, but their current state almost makes them feel like a non-option save for the occasional Bard spam button and the like (which still seem a very slight dps loss).

    Having no ability to set in conditions (as per their rule 4) makes perfect sense to me, but merely allowing GCDs to go off at their proper times is a far cry from optimization (about a proper double-oGCD off...).

    [All this atop the fact that they will still always have the issue of being less flexible than one will often need them to be.]
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 06-07-2015 at 11:02 PM.

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    I'm from PS4, DRG is my fave DPS and I have more macros than expected for sure but not to chain combo skills. I'm not in the tops DPS out there but I find myself doing better than many higher level/main DRG in DF and random parties.

    Tips for optimization:
    - Activate the L2/R2 combination it's very fast and handy once you get used to it, I use L2+R2 for the gapcloser jumps, AoEs and few utilities of mine and R2+L2 for PvP skills;
    - Set a custom cycle (pressing R1) to switch only to choosen crossbars when the weapon is sheated/drawn, I have it sets to cycle only through my main crossbar and the potions crossbar when the weapon is out;
    - Macro the oGCD skills before the actual weaponskill, like Power Surge + Jump, and activate the oGCD buff during the animation of the skill you used before so you don't waste time;
    - Macro the defensive CD, like keen flurry, foresight, bloodbath etc, into one;
    - Activate a non shared hotbar, vertical or horizontal and put in there the skills that are on other crossbars and/or covered by the macro icon so you can keep in check the CD situation.

    We'll get even more skills in HW so better get used to a new better set up soon :P though they said we'll get new crossbar shortcuts as well
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    Last edited by Greven; 06-07-2015 at 11:26 PM. Reason: getting through the character limit

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    You can try /chotbar change 1-8 macroing. It's essentially sacrificing a couple sets to cram 5+ buttons into the 4 face buttons (or the dpad).



    The macro itself doesn't contain any /ac, just the command to switch to 1. Therefore you need to press the macro once and then press the same button slot again to queue skills but if you're a bit mashy like me, that's no issue (double tap as the gcd readies up). And should you switch pages too fast, you can always tap the set select button that only scrolls on set 1 to reset it to set 1 directory.

    This one is on pld but you can do it on drg. It just takes more sets and more macros since you have 2 3hit combos. Set 1 would have the heavy thrust, phlebotomize, impulse drive, true thrust. Like a directory of sorts.
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    Last edited by Gardes; 06-07-2015 at 11:25 PM.

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    with regards to macros

    One problem is that I've run into with the 2.0 controller hobar vs the one they had in place in 1.0 is my bad luck in breaking certain buttons swapping through their crapola hotbar they invented.
    I ended up doing a keyboard main hotbar for abilities to see some things while keeping things like Second Wind and Invigorate on the main cross hotbar to avoid once again, breaking the RB. I've broken maybe 4 or 5 controllers, or parts have broken just swapping or holding combo of triggers and bumpers down to get to things so I know macros are seen as a dps loss but in theory, could save on buying more controllers with my luck.
    I haven't really found a hotbar setup I like on bard just yet I'm trying different setups to see what flows so if any of you controller bards out there have one u like mind screening it for me so I can take a look? Thx.
    Thing is some ppl don't want to have to remember what hotbar they put what skill on and on what side LT or RT with up to 8 of them to use, or that's what I'm getting from some posters. Keeping everything on one hotbar for a controller user is what keyboard users can already do with the way keyboard hotbars are. One could joke that hotbar swapping on a controller is like performing acrobatics.
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    Last edited by Yoruichi4478; 06-08-2015 at 01:22 AM. Reason: Additional thoughts.

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    I think your iron death-grip is to blame there, not the hotbar.
    You should consider a career in competitive hand shaking.
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