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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    The dress really emphasizes his tattoos actually. I think it looks great on him <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pomelo View Post
    The dress really emphasizes his tattoos actually. I think it looks great on him <3
    Eh, I'd like it if the colors were darker and less saturated due to his dark hair and faded tattoos and if the top was just flat rather than... idunno lumpy? Because it looks like it was obviously made for someone with bewbs, which at least to me looks out of place on a guy.

    But I agree that he could look great in a dress. I just think he picked the wrong one for his figure and such. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miya_Carbuncle View Post
    Eh, I'd like it if the colors were darker and less saturated due to his dark hair and faded tattoos and if the top was just flat rather than... idunno lumpy? Because it looks like it was obviously made for someone with bewbs, which at least to me looks out of place on a guy.

    But I agree that he could look great in a dress. I just think he picked the wrong one for his figure and such. :P
    Well if his tat's were brand new aka blacker than the night, and he had a bit more pecs to fill those cups out. Hot dang <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pomelo View Post
    The dress really emphasizes his tattoos actually. I think it looks great on him <3
    See, from my perspective it looks ostentatious and pointless.
    But then again I feel the same way about tattoos, but that's neither here nor there.

    Quote Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear View Post
    Whole subculture that does it there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otokonoko and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_kei I don't think they view themselves as clowns.
    First I said "hard to find"" not "impossible." Also, just because YOU don't view yourself as a clown doesn't mean others don't.
    Of course there are subcultures that embrace certain ideals, and often those subcultures will bleed out into the mainstream, but there is a very, VERY steep divide, especially in Japanese society, between subcultures and the "primary" culture.
    We're talking about a society where if you can't find a job by the time you graduate college, you're basically screwed. And to find this job, you must wear a conservative suit (regardless of gender) and have black hair, no piercings (except for ears for women), and ESPECIALLY no (visible) tattoos.
    From this, it becomes obvious almost immediately where all these subcultures come from, and they become popular not because people actually want to dress like a victorian age woman, or dress like a black face cartoon, but simply because they run counter to the norm, because they're different.
    So you have things that become popular explicitly because they're NOT normal.
    Of course there are people within the subcultures who have legitimate desires to dress like a woman, but because the majority care more about standing out than truly embracing the subculture, they get lost in the sea of the fad. You won't see men in dresses walking down the streets in Japan (Akihabara, Harajuku, Shibuya, and Shinjuku being possible exceptions) but you WILL see men in scarves and wearing make-up...flanked by a few girls fawning over him.
    By that same token, you'll see men in colorful caster robes in this game, but you won't see any men but hildibrand in an actual dress.
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    Last edited by kyuven; 06-07-2015 at 07:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    First I said "hard to find"" not "impossible." Also, just because YOU don't view yourself as a clown doesn't mean others don't.

    From this, it becomes obvious almost immediately where all these subcultures come from, and they become popular not because people actually want to dress like a victorian age woman, or dress like a black face cartoon, but simply because they run counter to the norm, because they're different.
    So you have things that become popular explicitly because they're NOT normal.
    Hey you asked for examples..

    also

    I don't believe any of this, not based off what I've seen released from there. I guess we need to change FFXIV entirely to be like Japan irl, completely stripping the game of all magic and wonder. I can't believe you're trying to sit there with a straight face and tell me that THIS game developer who just released a game with a tight skinned suit male lead is completely normal. And for that matter what is normal?
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    Last edited by TeaTimeBear; 06-08-2015 at 03:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    wordy wordy words
    You can stop pretending to understand a culture that you know nothing about now. Thanks.
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