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  1. #101
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    Gamer3427's Avatar
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    Rashi Shadowblade
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    Shiva
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    Machinist Lv 60
    While I would certainly never put female clothes on my male character, (even for comedy purposes), as it's frankly just weird to me, I get that there are plenty of people out there that cross-dress for various reasons, and have no issue with letting them do as they wish so long as they don't try to force it on everyone else. If some men want to put on women's clothes, let them. I agree that it's a bit discriminate that female characters can wear male clothing, and yet the reverse is considered taboo. Like I said, if they're not forcing men to dress in women's clothing, then I see no issues in letting it be an option, as it doesn't directly affect me any more than people running around in subligars does, but it does limit others from playing how they want to which is something that any RPG development team should avoid at all costs. A large portion of any good MMORPG is the actual "RP" part of that title......
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    Strangely enough, if you assume the OP is from a parallel universe, it all makes sense.
    ...
    That or they are just spouting gibberish.

  2. #102
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    Mirobi'a Tayuun
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 60
    Yoshi, Squeenix.........pls let me wear this
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  3. #103
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    NozomiKei's Avatar
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    Nozomi Kay
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    Balmung
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    I made a new version of the top and sleeves and updated the first post!

    I'll probably design more(and get around to drawing those sweet lace-up sandal things) later. If anybody has genuine advice about what they'd like to see from the top let me know! One thing I'll say is that I'm not doing a vest thing since we already have that with the unisex set.
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  4. #104
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    BreathlessTao's Avatar
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    Shuu Naranol
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    Omega
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I really can't understand why SE continues to ignore things and screw us guys over with the gear. Like, really, I see absolutely zero reason as to why all the newly announced glamours couldn't be made for both guys and girls, especially after OP's pictures.
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    Last edited by BreathlessTao; 06-06-2015 at 04:03 PM.

  5. #105
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    Pomelo's Avatar
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    Pomelo Elmbrook
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    We should be able to wear whatever we want regardless of gender. Clothing is not gendered, society just slaps a label on clothing and society is not always right. Lord of the Rings online let male characters of all races wear dresses and male and female dwarves shared the exact same character model. Eorzea should be diverse the last census had such a female character and race bias it's unreal, removing gender restrictions might even improve Fantasia sales if your only in it for the money. I think the pictures in the op look great and really emphasise the masculine physique such as the abs and biceps
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  6. #106
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    Cherie's Avatar
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    Cherry Fortuna
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    Leviathan
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    There are already dresses for males...

    Right now there is really one cross dress outfit each at the moment. Best man's outfit for females and that craftable dress bottom for men (no top though however...).

    I mean, if people really want it, I'm sure SE will do it eventually... As they are fond of saying, "It's on the list" somewhere I'm sure. The biggest problem is that there are like 2 wireframes, a female and a male one, whatever they make that both genders can wear, they have to work twice as hard (oh wait, do lala's get their own? I forget... I know rog supposedly share with hyur or something...).

    This does get asked quite a bit... I think it's more about them having lots of things they are asked to do.
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  7. #107
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    MissBrunHilda's Avatar
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    Brun Hilda
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    Phoenix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    The first thing that comes to mind for me is this:

    When the Sailor outfit was first created, it was a male-exclusive set. However, all it took was the devs saying "aw, but females would look so cute in it too" in order to get it changed and released as dual-gender.

    It is possible to change this and I wholly support changing it. It's a beautifully detailed outfit, and men are sorely lacking in their "detailed glamour" gear. All of the elements have such wonderful depth to them, it's a shame to have them restricted to only one gender.
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  8. #108
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    Hito-Shura's Avatar
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    Kaz Ashura
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by NozomiKei View Post
    I made a new version of the top and sleeves and updated the first post!

    I'll probably design more(and get around to drawing those sweet lace-up sandal things) later. If anybody has genuine advice about what they'd like to see from the top let me know! One thing I'll say is that I'm not doing a vest thing since we already have that with the unisex set.
    Holy shoot! Your updated version is simply gorgeous! I'd pay to have it in-game for my miqo'te!!

    This needs as much support as it can get! Seriously! o.o
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  9. #109
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    Lemuria's Avatar
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    I think the whole 'men in dresses' is more to make a point than to actually have any stylistic choices. I honestly don't believe many will choose to wear feminine outfits over the more masculine choices, so adding in support for that would only be catering to a very small number of players.

    I understand the conceptual reasons behind wanting it. In this world of political correctness gone crazy, people want everything to be equal for men and women to the point where everything starts to lose its identity. The problem is that while this may work in a smaller scale, on an MMO there are too many barriers. Many countries have very different laws about what you can and cannot have, and sexuality is at the core of many of the bigger differences.

    I fully support equality, but I doubt the reasons behind wanting this are the reasons being put forward. I think it would largely be used for comedic or 'shock' value than as any real attempt to be creative. There comes a point where even the most hard boiled must draw the line, and I think this is it. Ask yourself why you really want it, and be honest. Is it just for the novelty of being the next drag act or truly a desire to have a universal wardrobe?

    Whatever the reasons, I doubt enough people would wear it to warrant the conversions.
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  10. #110
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    Brun Hilda
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    Phoenix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
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    In its most basic and pure form, it often breaks down to: "I like to look at my character, and I like my character to be appealing to me." Most of the reasoning I've seen against the balance of glamours has been due to personal discomfort at seeing revealing or sexualized gear on males. Such as the change to the Mobius (also SE) main character.



    While some may use it for shock value, there is a group that will genuinely appreciate it. The people that wish to shock others can easily do it and will do it no matter what restrictions exist.
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