I think we, 'll fall into the same tiers except smn won't be completely outclassed.
Our single target has definitely gone upbut so has a few other classes. The chains moved but the links are mmostly the same imho.
I think we, 'll fall into the same tiers except smn won't be completely outclassed.
Our single target has definitely gone upbut so has a few other classes. The chains moved but the links are mmostly the same imho.
Selene, Skill Speed > Spell Speed Rotation please. Makes a better use of our time for Enochian. having Selene and Leylines up at the same time sounds really fun. What if your first rotation is like 20 seconds and you cast Blizzard IV.... Lost 10 Seconds of Enochian.
Opener is gonna be more than 20 seconds with that much MP and the low MP cost of Fire IVs.
Kairi™
Oh man... Raging, BV Foe's, Trick Attack, Enochian buff, Ast damage buff... 8k flare crits plz. Hopefully the trade-off of our already limited and improvised movement for the damage boost is worth it.



Going off the numbers from the video:
3s cast times (T2, F4, B4): 2.37ish
2.5s cast times: 1.94ish
Can assume 3.5s cast times would be 2.7ish
Sampling probably the longest potential opener, which I'm not advocating will be best before we test but just gonna throw the timeline out there:
Leylines > B3 > T2 (T1 probably not helpful here, would be very fast and probably no tick) > F3 > Sharpcast > F1 > F4 > F3 > F4 > F4 > F4 > SC Flare > F4 > B3: 28.99s, could Enochian pre-Leylines sometime after B3 and be able to get in your B4 probably even counting the animation times of Leylines and Swiftcast. If not Enochian would be sometime later. Pot would go ... somewhere, might have to do RS > hard pot after F3 which would add about half a second to the rotation
Something like this would be a lot shorter (not sure if this is actually possible MP wise but it should be, otherwise subtract a F4 or F1): Sharpcast F1 > F3 > F4 > F4 > F1 > F4 > F4 > SC Flare > F4 > B3: 21.55s + a little bit for pot and possibly a Firestarter somewhere
So I do believe yes you'd be over 20s with pretty much any opener, but it's true, the closer to 30s the better, since that means the closer Enochian will be to being ready to use again once you've dropped it. The long opener I listed probably would need fine tuning for it to be viable but it can't get any longer really.
Also I advocate Skill > Spell just like Aik. Definitely a raid DPS gain, as sad as it is for us BLMs doing our RS at that point. I hate it but I can't be selfishAlso probably losing Foe's if MCH > BRD so it'll be even less strong to start with Spell over Skill.
Last edited by Sleigh; 06-06-2015 at 04:24 AM.
My post was never about what's optimal for raid DPS. It was about what our numbers would look like with the perfect setup. Probably something I would go for after progression when going for personal parses.
Kairi™
But in progression and it's proven right now. Skill Speed pull is superior to Spell Speed. It sucks for BLMs but Skill Speed makes warrior/monk/ninja/dragoon really potent. They get more than you.
It's simple for Heavensward, you can maximize your 30 secs Enochian with only Leylines, I'd rather have spell speed after for the 25 seconds and 20 seconds. This is a better use of Enochian so it will most-likely be the better DPS choice.


It doesn't really suck for BLM, you lose at most 1 fire out of RS, which is ... very, very miniscule on the grand scheme of things.



You'd lose 1 Fire with BV + RS + pot. It can be a change to your parse, especially with a crit. That, and whatever is picked first for Skill or Spell, has a very realistic chance of having a whole extra session over the other type (IE in a 1m30s fight that'd be 1 minute of skill, 30s of spell), or at least a partial. At best a fight ends with even uptime for both, at worst it's even less than this form of uptime because if there's a phase change and both are recharging, skill gets priority.
Regardless, as we've mentioned, it's for the greater good so who cares.
Last edited by Sleigh; 06-06-2015 at 11:42 AM.


Yes but say, say that you miss out on literally 1000 damage from that one lost buff on fire.
On a 5 min fight, doing 500 dps, you will lose...0.7% dps, which is ...3 dps.
Yea.
I just wanted to point out how little your opener matters. Getting more procs and being tighter with your overall rotation is far more significant.
You are right in that they may get another set of ss boost, but even then the dps difference is not going to be that significant.
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Also probably losing Foe's if MCH > BRD so it'll be even less strong to start with Spell over Skill.


