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  1. #101
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    Atlaworks's Avatar
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    Faust Eisenhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Agreed, and I have a feeling a LOT of healers would abandon the role if they nerf/remove Cleric Stance. Good luck playing the game if 50% (just a random guess) of your healers quit healing.
    The sky will not fall if you don't get to DPS. It will not end the world, nor the people who play the class. If you are so aggressive about DPSing while you heal, and it's more important than healing, I encourage you to roll a DPS class instead- I feel you may enjoy it more, as the focus on DPS is much greater. People will still play healers- because most people who play healers do so to heal, I would like to think.

    If the number of healers is too low, I imagine they could implement some achievements for it a la the tank ones, where healing 500 expert dungeons gets you a gilded unicorn or a faerie palanquin or some such thing.
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  2. #102
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    Haven't read the thread just the first post. But this might me the dumbest suggestion I have ever seen on a game forum, which is saying a lot. I like finding the free 5 second holes in hard fights where I can drop a few dots and back to healing. And every little bit of dps help. But if you don't like to, or don't want to, then simply don't do it. No sense to ruin it for the rest of us and remove gameplay options.
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  3. #103
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    Adore Mi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlaworks View Post
    The sky will not fall if you don't get to DPS. It will not end the world, nor the people who play the class. If you are so aggressive about DPSing while you heal, and it's more important than healing, I encourage you to roll a DPS class instead- I feel you may enjoy it more, as the focus on DPS is much greater. People will still play healers- because most people who play healers do so to heal, I would like to think.

    If the number of healers is too low, I imagine they could implement some achievements for it a la the tank ones, where healing 500 expert dungeons gets you a gilded unicorn or a faerie palanquin or some such thing.
    I don't need advice from you in any way shape or form (especially considering you don't even have a healer job leveled). I have healed both jobs for a year and a half, as well as having 5 DPS jobs that I play regularly.

    If I wanted to stand around half the time doing nothing but throwing out a Cure every minute, I would be playing a different game.
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    Player : フェアリーのミラプリも作ってるんですか?
    (Any plan on Fairies glamour?)
    Yoshi'p Sampo: フェアリーはエギではないので、予定がないです。残念ながら。
    (Since Fairies aren't Egi so, No.)

  4. #104
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlaworks View Post
    The sky will not fall if you don't get to DPS. It will not end the world, nor the people who play the class. If you are so aggressive about DPSing while you heal, and it's more important than healing, I encourage you to roll a DPS class instead- I feel you may enjoy it more, as the focus on DPS is much greater. People will still play healers- because most people who play healers do so to heal, I would like to think.
    Just to comment about this particular point - I'm a healer to play a healer. I (and I imagine many of the people Bianca/NothernLadMSP is directing their comment towards) are players who wish to use the entire healer toolkit to it's maximum potential and adapt to any situation of a party dynamic - good or bad. There is a satisfaction in the way S-E has designed healers that isn't offered when playing a DPS class.

    This is why I play a healer. While I will be sad if they DO remove Cleric's Stance it would not stop me from playing healer.

    I do hope they never remove Cleric's Stance though. Not without a massive game design overhaul.
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  5. #105
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    Sevro Barca
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    I love healers who DPS just as much as the next guy, but why the hell do some people think it's mandatory?
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  6. #106
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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    I don't need advice from you in any way shape or form (especially considering you don't even have a healer job leveled). I have healed both jobs for a year and a half, as well as having 5 DPS jobs that I play regularly.

    If I wanted to stand around half the time doing nothing but throwing out a Cure every minute, I would be playing a different game.
    You already mentioned you were unable to play a healer in any game. Im not surprised, you dont sound like you enjoy healing.
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  7. #107
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    Vermilion Rose
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    You already mentioned you were unable to play a healer in any game. Im not surprised, you dont sound like you enjoy healing.
    He has a point though. Strictly healing in this game is a complete and dumb snorefest outside very specific stuff like T13 or Ifrit EX (back when it mattered and there was no echo). You can heal 99% of the content of this game just fine by simply spamming Physick/Cure and the occasional Medica/Succor. There's a reason why healers want to participate more especially in content where they are less stressed healing (4man for instance). You take this away and healing 4 man content becomes a torture for any player that wants to do more than pressing 2 buttons.
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  8. #108
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    You already mentioned you were unable to play a healer in any game. Im not surprised, you dont sound like you enjoy healing.
    LOL please learn to read. Go find the quote where I said I was unable to play a healer in any game. You won't be able to because I never said it.
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    Player : フェアリーのミラプリも作ってるんですか?
    (Any plan on Fairies glamour?)
    Yoshi'p Sampo: フェアリーはエギではないので、予定がないです。残念ながら。
    (Since Fairies aren't Egi so, No.)

  9. #109
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    This thread is a perfect example of why these official forums are considered to be a joke by the playerbase at large.
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  10. #110
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    Darkmoon Vael
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kemonologist View Post
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    So if you read the quote you gave carefully, they actually say "so you should just think of healer DPS as a last way to get your overall party's DPS up to where it needs to be." So yes, the devs understand that may people may wish to do this. Removing cleric stance is not needed. Dont blame people who are unable to stance dance on the move itself. The issue is with players, not the ability. We dont need yet another of these threads about removing cleric stance due to people not being able to use it properly.
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