Please disable changing Cleric Stance during combat for make healer focus on healing.

[RiceisNice]

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To give some perspective in FCoB, you don't need healer dps to meet enrage timers unless you're in cutting edge progression/world first. The latter puts yourself in a scenario where the dps is doing the bare minimum, if not less than the required dps to meet the enrage timers. They typically have more than enough hp to survive damage nukes like megaflares because they're using melded accessories to meet the hp requirements (which in return lowers their dps).

Cleric Stance is what separates the good players from the mediocre players. Though at the same time, I do not put my expectations on a pug healer to have to mix in their dps (especially if they're not comfortable with it). It's what you see in dps and tanks as well; whether or not they go above and beyond their role, whether it be surviving big pulls or letting a 10-20 minute expertise dungeon come to pass.

[Saseal]

To give some perspective in FCoB, you don't need healer dps to meet enrage timers unless you're in cutting edge progression/world first. The latter puts yourself in a scenario where the dps is doing the bare minimum, if not less than the required dps to meet the enrage timers.

Aha, thanks! I might have read some posts/FCoB mentions out of context, then

[Bhuni]

Sorta hate this whole "every healer should dps or they suck or they're lazy" nonsense. In my opinion if you like healing and stance dancing while doing it good for you, however don't sit there and force it down other healers throats, I like healing to heal not to be some hybrid healer/dps thing.

There is so much downtime in endgame content so why not throw some DPS in when you can maybe abit of Holy to stun lock trash, instead of standing around like a cabbage waiting for people to get hit.
You don't have to be pulling 300+ Whilst keeping everyone alive just some extra DPS here and there makes runs even faster for you and everyone else.

[Seig345]

I'm fairly sure I've seen the healer get reprimanded for not stance dancing a few times in some random DFs (which is silly; if you're signing up for a DF, you're already throwing that min/max expectation out the window unless you -want- to have a bad time and cause others to have a bad time as well). Personally, I'm not terribly comfortable with it. I'll throw DPS in when I can without cleric on, but I rarely feel like I have the time to switch AND deal with the cooldown, although on rare occasion I do. Personally, if the tank yelled at me for it, I'd counter that they aren't doing THEIR job well enough for me to safely pull it off. It'd accomplish nothing, since reasoning with those types of people isn't really possible, but it's something.

[dekal]

OP is may be thinking on other mmos where the healer is just a healer. This is not that type of mmo. You need to learn to adjust to the different game mechanics you will encounter.

[Saseal]

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I have to agree - healers are doing double duty with DPSing AND healing, so I don't agree the aggressive "DPS or you suck" stance that is sometimes taken. I certainly don't force that on other healers (again, unless it's Odin in the middle of casting Zanketshjdkssomethingrather and theres no reason to do anything else) whether I'm co-healing or on DPS. I may not agree with it 100% but I'm more open to "To each their own".
I just wish others were - on both sides of the fence - *More open minded, *Willing to push themselves

The post that was mentioned was from a Live letter or one of the big events (Paris, I believe?) held by SE in which they talked about Heavensward. I've honestly forgotten which/where I read it. The developers didn't think healers would DPS as much as we were in the game (so they didn't factor in healer DPS when creating party content), so they decided to give healer roles more DPS-based skills in Heavensward.

[FrozenSoupZOMG]

There is so much downtime in endgame content so why not throw some DPS in when you can maybe abit of Holy to stun lock trash, instead of standing around like a cabbage waiting for people to get hit.
You don't have to be pulling 300+ Whilst keeping everyone alive just some extra DPS here and there makes runs even faster for you and everyone else.

I actually do dps here and there once i gauge the group a bit, however it's usually my choice when i do so not someone else. Just really hating the turn the community is taking with the whole healer dps thing. I always saw it as a bonus not a requirement as it's becoming nowadays. (sorry if this appears twice still a newb with forum stuff)

[Priya]

They need to just remove the CD on cleric. That'll help those who aren't comfortable with stance-dancing and likely have a neutral-to-positive impact on those who are. I suspect most of the discomfort people have arises from the penalty.

InB4- But it takes skill to Cleric. Make those noobs git gud, blah, blah, blah. If you can still continue to stance-dance per usual, why do you care?

[AldoVonAlexandros]

hahahaha, we r getting new dpsing skills and u want to take out CS on combat?? hahahaha, If a healer cant heal properly and dps is because they are bad Whm or sch, dont blame de skill

[Ghishlain]

I like having the options to be able to DPS as a healer when the opportunity presents itself. Even the dev team agrees with this.

Certainly for people who are at world's first level, their goal is to clear it at as low an item level as possible, lower than the one assumed during development. So if you look at the fight and figure out that if it's not numerically possible to clear with four DPS and tanks, you'll need to make up the gap with DPS from healers.

And they're increasing our DPS potential

Since all DPS jobs will be increasing up through level 60, it makes sense to have the white mage's DPS extend by a proportional amount as well.

Quoted directly from the line you pulled out.

Please don't take away the tools I enjoy using when I do dungeons and raid. Thank you.