Please disable changing Cleric Stance during combat for make healer focus on healing.

[loreleidiangelo]

Please do not discredit Cleric Stance, it is an important tool that a skilled healer uses to take small, calculated risks to help the party's DPS.

God, this. Wish they'd made other adjustments to stop the 8 WHM Holy spam roflstomping in PVP rather than taking away Cleric Stance. Just straight heal-bombing is boring.

[Bhuni]

If you paid attention to the CNJ quest line it more or less implies you need to do MORE than just simply heal, so no.

[Seiryuukishi]

So if you get your wish and all the healers are practically gone leaving you with plds to heal or smns... don't come back here crying. Think ques are long now? If this gets implemented it will be "average wait time: forever". Did you stop to think before... no, you didn't.

[Mugiawara]

Welp, here is one of the "bad idea's of the day" for the morning.

[Elazu]

Hey, TC.

No.

[Ulathskullsplitter]

The healers asking for this and complain about healers being asked to dps are the ones who like to be lazy. You know the ones who you get in dungeons that just stand around doing nothing with full mp in between the occasional heal to the tank. It irritates me every time i get a healer like that. Makes me want to fight only using full thrust over and over and nothing else. The healer doesn't think he needs to perform to his max so why should i.

[Izsha]

Defiance should be permanently on, because wars a tank and shouldn't be expected to dps. Oh wait they are adding an even more offensive stance who's purpose is only to dps more.

Pld should have sword oath deleted because it's a tank. Oh wait they are getting a non enmity generating skill with Dot in expac to dps more.

Whm shouldn't dps either. Oh wait, they are getting stone AND aero 3 in expac to dps harder.

Healers and tanks shouldn't be expected to dps. Oh wait, the game developers are designing them to do so even more.

Tldr: devs and forum completely disagree with OP.

[FrozenSoupZOMG]

Sorta hate this whole "every healer should dps or they suck or they're lazy" nonsense. In my opinion if you like healing and stance dancing while doing it good for you, however don't sit there and force it down other healers throats, I like healing to heal not to be some hybrid healer/dps thing.

[Saseal]

*Twitch* Not this nonsense, again.

Though, I will say, your post title and what you're saying sound like two different things.
The title sounds like you're saying, "Make Cleric unusable so they can't DPS and make them heal slaves". There was a similarly titled anti-cleric stance rage-post in another sub-forum that had entirely laughable reasons - so you'll have to excuse the bulking.
To that I say, there is no fault to the skill. There is only fault in it's user if a person ignores healing responsibility in favor of DPSing.

The contents of your post, though, sound more like you don't want people to expect/demand DPS from the healers - therefore make it unusable for the healer? If I am reading it correctly?
This sounds a little less aggressive -against- healers, but rather sounds like you personally are trying to escape that demand? If you or someone else is getting harassed for not DPSing, then that's the fault of the harassing players for being rude if a situation arises. There are always more diplomatic ways to get ideas passed along (I just rarely see this in MMOs). I personally don't see a reason not to DPS if nothing is going on, but I don't say anything when I see healers just standing around - unless it's vital. Maybe they're new. Maybe they're under confident or insecure. Who knows.
I'm the type of healer that stance dances when I feel secure enough to do so (except that cool down.... uugh), and DPS. If I -don't- feel secure but still see no reason to heal right then, I'll toss a few non-clericed DPS (I know it's not maximized/efficient DPS, but I prioritize healing unless secure/confident... but better than doing nothing) so I can automatically step-cancel and switch to heal if the occasion arises (such as more chaotic parties or fights where I can't chance the CS CD).
Lots of people are not happy just sitting in the boundaries of a role, and therefore push the limits (such as healer DPSing, when they weren't designed with that expectation) - it's human nature.
There are, however, fights that -need- everyone to DPS hard in order to survive (such as Odin Trial.... though I haven't been in there since before WoD/gear upgrades), and some have mentioned fights in FCoB (Sorry, only gotten up to SCoB/T9 at this point, so I don't have first hand experience as to which points in FCoB).

With less raiding in mind and more dungeon-relatable example, since I don't know what content you're refering to - there have been points in time where a DPS dropped party, or died, or AFKed and the healer was able to make up for the DPS loss through Cleric.
Or.... tank and a DPS one hit KO'd in a boss (IE, coincounter), respawned before I could raise, get locked out and it was just I on healer and one other DPS to take it down. Cleric'd Aero/Aero II is pretty nice while kiting.

[hobostew]

While I disagree with the OP I've always felt that healer DPS is a bonus and not really an expectation as some of you seem to be making it out to be. The stance this community has taken about this issue (Healers who DPS are good, those that don't are fail) is a little off-putting tbh. While I love anyone who goes the extra mile, the hate that people who don't do so get around here is a little ridiculous.

Also, the quote explicitly states that they don't tune encounters with healer DPS in mind.. I really don't get where some of you are getting this from.