The new jobs / Ishgard city access - yes, again.

[Kaze3434]

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Various Q&A
Can I go to Ishgard right after purchasing Heavensward?
In order to access Ishgard, you will first need to complete the main scenario quest "Before the Dawn," which will be implemented in FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Patch 2.55.

I play on both Windows and PS4. What do I need to purchase?
You will need to purchase both the Windows and PS4 versions of the expansion to play the new content on both platforms. If you would like the exclusive bonus items from the Collector's Edition, you can get them with either the Windows or PS4 version as they will be linked to a single service account. Heavensward must be installed on the client to access the areas that will be added in Heavensward. If you are planning to log back in on a client that doesn't have Heavensward installed, make sure to log out in an FFXIV: ARR area.


I'm using the 20 GB model of the PlayStation 3. Will I be able to install Heavensward?
We are expecting that roughly 20 GB of disk space will be needed in order to install Heavensward, so we recommend upgrading to a larger capacity HDD beforehand. Please refer to the Sony Computer Entertainment support FAQ for NA and support FAQ for EU region for details on upgrading the PlayStation 3 hard drive.


I've purchased the Collector's Edition for A Realm Reborn, but if I purchase the standard edition of Heavensward will I still receive the in-game bonus items for the expansion?
No, you will not receive the bonus items. The bonuses are separate for the A Realm Reborn Collector's Edition and the Heavensward Collector's Edition. If you would like the Heavensward Collector's Edition bonuses, you will need to purchase the Heavensward Collector's Edition.


Will the bonus items be distributed to a single character or to all character under the same account?
Bonus items will be applied to the entire service account, so all characters under the service account will receive the items. Furthermore, any new characters created on the same account afterwards will also receive these items.


Will there be a digital collector's edition upgrade option to receive the collector's edition in-game items?
Yes, there will be. We'll announce further details, including pricing, at a later date.


Will 'The Navel *SUPER' animated video be included on the Collector's Edition blu-ray movie disc?
We'll look into it!


If I pre-order the Mac version will it come with early access?
No, it will not.

oh look, what you have been asking for. also, i think people are aware you are a troll.

[Edellis]

actually, i think going into a dungeon and seeing a dark knight / machinist / astro beat stuff, or even during the lv50 content (ex primals and such) would just be massive incentive to keep playing.

[Losian]

I'm glad to see the post on the thread about PvP and PvP queues, I know these threads are being seen. It's "crunch time" for the expansion, but there's still time!

Many have outlined their thoughts regarding Ishgard access and the new jobs. I know some people just don't care; it doesn't affect them and thus they view it as pointless or a waste of time, but I implore the devs to think of everyone else.

Realize that the forum demographic is skewed heavily - if you consider that only active subs may post.. who is actively subbing right now, and what are their biases?

A simple level 30 quest would be all it takes to sneak folks from Coerthas into Ishgard; and it'd add an extra challenge and thrill to it for lower folks attempting it.. not unlike the challenge of unlocking some of the jobs in XI solo with various expansions (and thankfully it was possible, if difficult, and not just totally barred as seems to be with Heavensward.)

[Allistar]

I kinda skimed through this so correct me if I'm wrong, but what I'm understanding is... You want to play the expansion jobs and not have to do the main story to unlock them? But I mean... If your going to play the game you might as well do the story, it's really not that hard and all... That's like me saying I want this end-game (insert whatever floats your boat item) at level 30. :/

Why can't I play the MSQ with the new jobs...whats my incentive to level these jobs from 30-60???...grind fates???...dungeons??? because really that's all we have...BUT!!! If we can get access to the new jobs and level them while doing the MSQ and the fates and the various dungeons, I think we'll have a lot more happier players. No???

[Allistar]

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Lets analyze this...we can create new characters with the new race being released in the expansion, but we cannot get access to the new jobs that are also part of the expansion, because we need to be level 50 and completed the MSQ to get access to level 30 jobs that we won't be able to use in the new areas because it all high content area...

[Madsamurai]

Also, it just occurred to me..

If Ishgard is gated off from having to finish 2.55 and such.. doesn't that mean the entire expansion is essentially inaccessible until you've done all of it?

Wouldn't it be really nice to make this extremely clear? A returning player who was already 50 and did some of the post 2.0 content is going to be a little surprised when they suddenly have to spend days running all this old content, which fewer and fewer people will be running anyways, so that they can actually play any of the expansion they paid for.. it just doesn't make any sense to gate off so much content, essentially the whole expansion, like that.

You won't be alone. There are still lots of people who aren't done till 2.55 therefore you will not have problem in DF. And once expansion hits with even more new people into the fray, it is impossible for you not to be able to find a grp in DF to finish up ARR story till HW. Like i said in another thread, the developers just needs to create incentives for vet players to revisit the old content so there will not ever be problem for newbies to look for a group. By doing it like this, they are preserving the old content and making it relevant to future expansions.

Sure it will become extremely tedious for newcomers later on when more expansion hits but one thing for sure, there will never be the issue of not being able to find a group in DF to finish old content to advance in main story. Plus xp earned to get through old content will be doubled or tripled depending on how old the content is to be less of a grind. If you can't live with that, then the FF MMO isn't really for you because it has been like this since FF11. It seems hardcore and a drag to get through it all but i feel it is for the better.

[IceSpear]

Why can't I play the MSQ with the new jobs...whats my incentive to level these jobs from 30-60???...grind fates???...dungeons??? because really that's all we have...BUT!!! If we can get access to the new jobs and level them while doing the MSQ and the fates and the various dungeons, I think we'll have a lot more happier players. No???

Because as far as you're aware none of these jobs exist. Nobody even mentions them why's that? Because Ishgard has been closed off. To be perfectly honest it just sounds like you guys want to be handed the new jobs on a platter dish without the salad dressing.

[GenJoe]

I kinda skimed through this so correct me if I'm wrong, but what I'm understanding is... You want to play the expansion jobs and not have to do the main story to unlock them? But I mean... If your going to play the game you might as well do the story, it's really not that hard and all... That's like me saying I want this end-game (insert whatever floats your boat item) at level 30. :/

No, it's more along the lines of..

Expansion is coming, I want to start a new character/job and I would like to experience the actual game as a new job.

Which is impossible to do... Basically, if you're making any character specifically to be a DRK/AST/MCH, those are secondary jobs ONLY. Because you'd already have to have a primary job in order to get beyond 2.55. Which is a lot like DK from WoW (they start at lv 55) except in WoW's case, each class is a stand alone character and DK's actually have their own dedicated quest to get them out of their starting zones. With HW jobs, none of them even have a "starting" zone or an "origin story" if you will. I'm sure there will be lore, but you won't be born into it so to speak. It's really only a problem for the people who have alts and/or like to give each character a specific identity. It's a minority of the player base for sure, but there's really not too great of a reason to alienate that part when they can just as easily move the job NPCs to Mor Dhona for example.

I myself have 2 characters I made that are ad-hoc. 1 as a BRD and another as a SMN or SCH (to be determined) I was contemplating making another one modeled after Mustadio and make him a Machinist, and I have a friend who would like to make a character just for DRK, but neither are possible without leveling a main class to complete 2.55 which is where the issue arises.

As an example, I ask you this. You've probably seen a lot of Tifa Lockharts running around in-game and most of them that are serious about their character have the proper glam, proper hair, and even the proper job (MNK). You don't expect these characters to be a builder of the realms or a lv 50 Dragoon or something.. They might have a couple other classes for the cross class skills but that is it.. That is how serious some people take their character identity. Now imagine doing the same for Machinist.. can't be done.


Now, my personal gripe with it is the crafting scene, which still hasn't been addressed which is.. As crafters, we will be able to reach lv 60 without needing to enter foot in Ishgard, and gearing can all be done via MB without issues.. However, where will the recipes be located? Mor Dhona? or Ishgard? Now that's the tricky part that's making me unsure if I need to do MSQ for my crafting alt to prepare for HW.

[FrejyaAthenes]

Lets analyze this...we can create new characters with the new race being released in the expansion, but we cannot get access to the new jobs that are also part of the expansion, because we need to be level 50 and completed the MSQ to get access to level 30 jobs that we won't be able to use in the new areas because it all high content area...

You are aware that your character is an immigrant of unknown/undisclosed origin, right? Your starting race is neglible.

[Losian]

Saw the update on the lodestone today about the new jobs - I was kinda disappointed that you guys didn't make it exceptionally clear there that the new jobs were NOT AVAILABLE at the release of Heavensward.. it's still very unclear to someone who doesn't follow third-party site information closely. There's no dev posts on the forums and nothing on official pages.. it woulda been the perfect place to put it and avoid confusion.. There's really no reason for all this silence on such a critical thing - many people buy expansions or resume playing games specifically to play new jobs, after all, and they're going to be in for a very unpleasant surprise..