I'm not even going to bother tanking 24x raids in 3.0

[CGMidlander]

The current state of the game as I see it as a casual player who doesn't have a static is that, Tanks can't tank, DPS can't do anything other than sit on the boss and Healers can't heal.

So while I can agree that maximising DPS is great and if you are comfortable doing that go for it but I can also see why Donjo would much rather see a tank just doing their role as tank and keeping agro and not trying to do other things on top of that.

Especially in the context of 24 man content that most people solo queue, if we are talking about a pre-made 8 man group or a pre-made 24 man alliance then I would agree with you more however.

Pandering to less than ideal parties is where Donjo's condition #4 (which I didn't object to) comes in.

[PotatoWafflez]

Pandering to less than ideal parties is where Donjo's condition #4 (which I didn't object to) comes in.

Ah yes, apologies I seem to have skimmed over that line when reading the original post, should have finished my morning coffee it seems.

And to be fair the tanks I seem to see are the ones who are just over the ilvl requirements and have little interest in tanking in the first place, which is where my bias is probably coming from and isn't really the point you were getting at so again, sorry.

I do however feel that some of the aspects of the current state of the game do lead to bad habits in newer tanks who don't know why other tanks don't tank in stance or why they use STR accessories, doing something without knowing why is never a good thing.

Assuming that you just switched to tank and people keep telling you that you don't need tank accessories you'll never get them and if people keep telling you don't need to use your tank stance you'll never use it, so you'll never think about the benefits of using it and switch to it yourself unless someone thinks to mention it.

Even then I've seen tanks who have refused to switch when ask by healers who have been struggling to keep everyone topped off.

But as I said earlier in this post I am clearly reading this as someone who isn't confident in the tanks I am seeing when I'm not tanking and not the tanks that read these forums who are good at their job.