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  1. #111
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    MageBlack's Avatar
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    Sora Burakku
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    I've talked about this at length in my other thread and it is the only thing I have ever complained about in this game. FC housing works fine like this but when you mix personal housing in with it, its a recipe for disaster. Here's a quote form the other thread.

    1) Money was never the issue, availability was. Money can be earned if one is frugal enough. Money doesnt matter at all if all plots are sold by the time you can log in due to server congestion immediately following the patch that brought more plots in. Also, what do new players do? is it then their fault for not buying the game at 2.0 launch or earlier? I know that 2.5 will bring in/back many players as will 3.0. With the way the housing is done, there will never be enough for everyone let alone just for those who want one. To be truthful, I've had the money for a while but with an influx of new players and the continued issues on many servers, I wanted to bring it to light again.

    2) The current housing system is fine for FC housing but not ok for Personal housing. A personal house should have been a separate instance available to every character once they met the requirements. First come first serve should never have been a requirement for a personal house. It has been done this way in many other games (FFXI, WildStar, WKC, etc)

    3) I did not pick Balmung because it was highly populated, when I chose Balmung it wasn't even an unofficial RP server. Come to think of it I was on Fabul when they merged with Balmung so I didnt even have the choice... I have been here (except for a short stint) since 1.0. I do not RP but wanted a house to decorate, have chocobo stables, a garden and crafting stuff. The free company I am in is in the same boat because we are a smaller group of closer knit players. Each time we saved up enough for a house, it got sold. So the best I get is an inn room... I would love to color my chocobo and I wonder how this will affect the chocobo breeding for the chocobo racing coming with the Golden Saucer? Will I need a house for that too?

    4) It was not a "surprise" that the plots were sold out. I knew once I heard how "Personal" houses were getting implemented that (especially due to the server I am on and its current state)if i did not have the funds for my house and log on within the first 10 min of the servers going live, I would not get a house. The OP was just to state that I finally had enough for a small personal house and as predicted, there are none to be had. Now, even if they add in more wards, they will also get sold out within min of them going live, either by people like me or people who buy multiple plots to sell them to other players and make some coin.

    5) As for server capacity, it take up so many resources BECAUSE of the way its implemented. I know they cant design the game to cater to a single server but this is not the only server having this issue and it could have been avoided if it had been done differently, imo.

    6) This is comparable to how the Market wards were initially set up. It was a disaster and ended up having to be completely overhauled (and still slightly broken, but better). If they can fix the market wards, I really hope they can fix the personal housing.

    7) Housing server structure needs to be adjusted at the very least. Currently it looks like it is per database, We get 32 housing wards for all servers on this data base, To give more housing for a specific server that ran out of space, we also have to give more space to servers that may not really need it. If it was per server at the very least they would be able to add more wards to the more populated servers on an as needed basis. This would prevent wasted space on the extremely low populated servers and give housing to those who desperately want it on the extremely highly populated servers.
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  2. #112
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    GenJoe's Avatar
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    Arugo Kusaragi
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    Come to Balmung and say that. lol.
    Well considering I regularly hear people selling smalls for 30-50m, I'm sure if one has billions, it really wouldn't be an issue to buy one..
    I'm not saying that's a solution to the core problem but it is a work around for people who have gobs of money..

    On other servers really, it's a little more reasonable and might prove a decent alternative where people are relinquishing houses in the range of 8-15m gil..


    On the other hand, at least you're aware that housing needs an overhaul to fix the disaster that it currently is.. That is indeed what we need..

    Either something drastic to triple, quadruple the supply OR aggressive upkeep/relinquish control to diminish demand.
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    Last edited by GenJoe; 06-03-2015 at 01:34 PM.

  3. #113
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    Catwho's Avatar
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    Katarh Mest
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    Lamia
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    Depends on the reason they're relinquishing. We caught someone who was transferring servers and who let it go for 2 million cash. Another 3.2 mil for the lot, and my friend had the beach house of her dreams.
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  4. #114
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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    Come to Balmung and say that. lol.
    I was thinking of Balmung as well. Someone with billions can get a house anywhere.


    I don't need to come to Balmung tho, I chose a low population server (recommended to me by the system) for amongst other reasons; to be able to get my own house.
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    Last edited by Aeyis; 06-03-2015 at 01:42 PM.

  5. #115
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    Verdan Lankost
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    I will literally kill you* if anyone tries to pull the "just transfer" in this thread, I swear on me mum.

    I heard a long time ago about Faerie and Pheonix having housing problems. Anybody know anything about that?
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    Last edited by Verdan; 06-03-2015 at 02:11 PM. Reason: *I will not kill you

  6. #116
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    Ying Fa
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    Although I agree with you about transfering. At the same time, I don't have much of a choice. The server I joined happened to have gil I simply can't catch up to. I just wished that transferring wasn't such a hassle is all. I mean, I honestly don't know what to dom
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  7. #117
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    Ying Fa
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    As in I've had to leave the game for an emergency and just barely returned. I've done all I really could do to accumalate gil but the reselling for houses is too much for me. I'm at least happy that the people who have houses and open it to public are having a blast. Or that's what it seems to me anyway. Thank you for reading. =)
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  8. #118
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    Miranda Madison
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    Yeah Famfrit has zero plots, and I know a good bit of them, the owners no longer play.
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  9. #119
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    Sago Stratosphere
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    Economic horror i guess the person mean difficult to make gil as on adamantoise the prices are sinking that low its not worth making stuff for example raptor leather is less than 700g, alumen is less than 300g, black alumen used to be 800g and is now 250g etc

  10. #120
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    Meg Xori
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverDjinn View Post
    Economic horror i guess the person mean difficult to make gil as on adamantoise the prices are sinking that low its not worth making stuff for example raptor leather is less than 700g, alumen is less than 300g, black alumen used to be 800g and is now 250g etc
    I wish these were the prices on cactuar.. right now everything is 150gil or lower for parts and even HQ items are teh same as NQ and only for 500g max.
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