Land Needs Are Unmet on Balmung

[Kekeri]

Just ran up against this recently.

I joined some friends on Balmung, which was billed as a RP-server (by them). Population/age/costs weren't mentioned, probably because they weren't experienced enough to know about them. We've "heard" about all these features that are locked behind housing (stables, etc.) and that future ones will also require property (airship crafting?).

All the land is taken, and just the cost for "releasing" a property to sell (which is sketchy to begin with) is many many times the total gil accrued by all of us over the lifetimes of our characters. That's to say nothing of the cost of the property after that, or the gil we actually have.

It makes me wonder if that's why I get spammed by RMT traders every 5-10 minutes. It seems like this is something that could literally take our FC years to buy. New features in Heavensward that require property are only available to some tiny fraction of the server? It seems like a broken system.

[GenJoe]

All the land is taken, and just the cost for "releasing" a property to sell (which is sketchy to begin with) is many many times the total gil accrued by all of us over the lifetimes of our characters. That's to say nothing of the cost of the property after that, or the gil we actually have.

That's really not a pertinent point to argue about the cost of housing.. It's the availability that's the issue at hand.. Cost is perfectly fine as is. If it were any lower, you'd just experience even more difficulty in obtaining one. Player vs. Player relinquish fee may seem high but if you consider mansions costing 50m it's really not such a huge amount of gil.. and if more land were available, the relinquish fees would naturally drop to a more reasonable amount as well.

I was just wondering if there is a list of servers where they have ANY plots left. =)

Zalera, Zodiark, Jenova, basically, go to the NA server community forums and check out the servers listed at the bottom.

[Reneo]

Thanks. I don't mind transfering servers, I just wish I could take my FC over thete. I didn't really know there was so much of an issue with housing space since I just returned from the game.

[Reneo]

Thanks. I don't mind transfering servers, I just wish I could take my FC over thete. I didn't really know there was so much of an issue with housing space since I just returned from the game.

[Kekeri]

That's really not a pertinent point to argue about the cost of housing.. It's the availability that's the issue at hand.. Cost is perfectly fine as is. **snip**

This seems to be missing the point I think. Availability and cost are inextricably linked. If availability were improved, concerns on cost would be alleviated. There's an inherent issue with the supply where personal and company housing is apparently shared (one person takes a limited resource that could be used by 20), and the numbers are incredibly finite given the population.

An even larger issue is that it effectively locks you out from parts of the game. Want to color your bird? Too bad. You have to leave your friends and join some other group, etc. This is bad design. They need to improve supply, or provide means for those gameplay mechanisms (like Heavensward stuff) to be otherwise accessible.

[GenJoe]

This seems to be missing the point I think. Availability and cost are inextricably linked.

It is to a degree, which is why I also mentioned that increased supply will lead to lower costs of P2P sales i.e. relinquish fee.

But if you're complaining about the cost of buying a house from the system, there's very little likelihood that price will ever be lowered. I'm just saying this because I see people complaining about paying 1 million gil for a house.. In such a case, it's not the system that is flawed, the player simply needs to lower his expectations in this regard..

For example, if you ever thought smalls for 2m, mediums for 10, mansions for 30 were expensive, just wait til SE adds more wards, new plots will be twice that amount before depreciation and there will still be enough people to snatch them all up within a few days. Mind you the price I listed are also for low pop servers.. On legacy they're even more..

SE simply failed to implement the housing as an easily affordable system for a vast majority of players (probably intentional) and it likely won't change either..

So it's really in the best interest of a perspective buyer to just get over the expectation of thinking I should be able to afford that after 3 months of playing and just look for more efficient ways of earning more gil..


The way housing was implemented and handled thereafter, it really is only for the elite. You can say what you want about elitism and what kind of toxic environment SE is fostering by these decisions, but at the end of the day it's easier to just join the ranks than waiting for SE to change their mind.


If it bothers you to the core on the matter of principle, that's too bad, but I try to leave that out the door when I play games, it's too taxing to be an upstanding citizen in a game World If you can do both, more power to ya. (No really, I'm not such a money grubbing power hungry whore in real life )