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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    I suggest you go look at the popularity of races in wow. Humans are always popular but that's not by far the only popular one.
    But humans and elves are indeed popular.
    17% Humans, 17% Blood Elves, 15% Night Elves (49% total)
    http://wowwiki.wikia.com/WoW_Census

    Depending on how you view it, Orcs (8%), Dranei (10%), Dwarves (5%), Gnomes (5%), and Undead (9%) can probably be thrown into the mix as well, as "human-like" races.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    the problem is... races that don't look like a human are not popular.
    Except that isn't true.

    I've been playing on the new EQ progression server and Ogres and Trolls make up a good number of the mix. People are waiting in line to get race change potions when the kunark expansion unlocks so they can play Iksar (lizard men).
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGMidlander View Post
    But humans and elves are indeed popular.
    17% Humans, 17% Blood Elves, 15% Night Elves (49% total)
    http://wowwiki.wikia.com/WoW_Census

    Depending on how you view it, Orcs (8%), Dranei (10%), and Undead (9%) can probably be thrown into the mix as well, as "human-like" races.
    That thing should be updated because Worgen, Goblin and Pandaran aren't on there....how old is that? o.o *looks at date* That was five years ago.

    Found this one . Not sure it's accuracy though.

    Either way, I appreciate such diversity in that game. And I'm sure the players that are those races do as well. I even love seeing the other races around me even if I'm not playing as them myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spy View Post

    EDIT: I derped...and misread your quote....you make a point with new players. If it was just npcs yeah...however, new player's aren't exactly residents of Ul'dah, most of us just pass through. And have to jump through hoops basically to become Ul'dahn. Honestly, if they let Au Ra, then I don't see why they can't let more beast-like personally.



    If Roegadyn are Ronso, then Hyur are Elezen according to your logic...
    It doesn't matter whether or not you're a resident. Beast Tribes are NOT permitted within the walls of Ul'Dah with absolutely no exceptions whatsoever, and there's an entire subquest in Limsa that shows that ONE merchant doesn't care about the prejudices even her own fellow citizens carry towards Goblins. And this is a level one quest. This isn't even getting into how the Gridanians feel about Beast Tribes, especially the Ixali.
    Hell there's ANOTHER quest later on, one of the moogle mail quests, that shows that they hatred many people carry for beast tribes runs incredibly deep. And most of the Beast Tribe quests we can do are predicated on said beast tribes being the exception and not the rule.

    Also, no, by my logic Humes, Spirans, and Al Bhed are Hyur, Gria are Au ra, and Mithra are Miqo'te. The Ronso were developed into the Galka and Roegadyn.
    Which they kind of are. Taking one design from a previous game, tweaking it, and giving it a slightly different name is common in final fantasy.

    Au Ra look human enough, at least as human as Miqo'te, so they're able to fit in by calling themselves "adventurers" or "refugees."

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    Except that isn't true.

    I've been playing on the new EQ progression server and Ogres and Trolls make up a good number of the mix. People are waiting in line to get race change potions when the kunark expansion unlocks so they can play Iksar (lizard men).
    You'll note that those races give specific racial bonuses that make them perfect for min maxers. Ogres can't be stunned from the front (valuable for a tanking class, of which they can access two), Iksar have an innate regen, AC bonus, and higher starting swim speed (also valuable for tanks, shaman, and necromancers, which they can play as), and trolls have an innate regen as well (valuable for shaman and tanks). They also have higher starting strength, which is a nice edge on a progression server. On top of that, just the regen means they can recover and get back in the action faster.
    Meanwhile, in this game, all racial bonuses really make no difference in the end, and they've been vehement about not wanting to give one race an advantage over another.
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    "Aside from all the stuff that isn't human they are basically humans"

    This could be said about any race in this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spy View Post
    That thing should be updated because Worgen, Goblin and Pandaran aren't on there....how old is that? o.o *looks at date* That was five years ago.
    Worgen, Goblins, and Padaren aren't popular (3% Pandaren Alliance, 2% Pandaren Horde, 3% Goblin, 6% Worgen)
    http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php

    Humans and Elves? Still the most popular.
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    Pretty human like races tend to always be popular but plenty of other MMO's have races that are more out there that are still pretty popular. Wow for example has a good amount of players for most races, although they don't compare to human+elves. However I think the FF fanbase is different and not nearly as accepting nor diverse. You can tell kind of easy since any time a race is suggested here, it's always something that looks very human with extremely minor alterations. Humanoid is fine with me but it needs more depth than what is often suggested or given. In the end I can't blame SE too much because I think if they do anything remotely unique it would probably be a bomb due to the fanbase in this game. Hopefully they at least try once but yeah I'm not really expecting much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGMidlander View Post
    But humans and elves are indeed popular.
    17% Humans, 17% Blood Elves, 15% Night Elves (49% total)
    http://wowwiki.wikia.com/WoW_Census

    Depending on how you view it, Orcs (8%), Dranei (10%), Dwarves (5%), Gnomes (5%), and Undead (9%) can probably be thrown into the mix as well, as "human-like" races.
    Draenei are anthro goats.

    Do take into consideration racials. Humans' "every man for himself" is a PvP get out of jail free card, and troll' berserking was mandatory for top guilds horde side. Every race that walks on two legs can be considered "human like", by " humanoid logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGMidlander View Post
    Worgen, Goblins, and Padaren aren't popular (3% Pandaren Alliance, 2% Pandaren Horde, 3% Goblin, 6% Worgen)
    http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php

    Humans and Elves? Still the most popular.
    Worgen are popular enough, since 6 percent is pretty decent with so many races and Worgens have some limitations on very popular classes. Not everything has to be the most popular you know. Pandas are pretty much considered a joke and not many people seriously wanted that race. Goblins are kind of expected and definitely on the lower end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    Also, no, by my logic Humes, Spirans, and Al Bhed are Hyur, Gria are Au ra, and Mithra are Miqo'te. The Ronso were developed into the Galka and Roegadyn.
    Which they kind of are. Taking one design from a previous game, tweaking it, and giving it a slightly different name is common in final fantasy.
    I'm sorry but...Ronso and Galka/Roegadyn are nothing alike besides muscle mass. "tweaking" it? By removing their fur, nose, ears, tail, horns, claws/paws and their actual body structure (Biggest example the feet)? If that's just a slight tweaking, then how are hyur and elezen not the exact same race? A Ronso is a Ronso. A Galka is a Galka, and a Roegadyn is a Roegadyn.

    The lore of beastman you make sense on...the races you do not.

    EDIT: Also, bear in mind the hatred is towards the current beastman...which isn't exactly what I (and a few others) are asking for. My "I'd rock a Mamool'ja" was more of a joke than anything. I'd prefer something different and unique. Something new to Eorzea.
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