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    RiceisNice's Avatar
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    My friend swapped from monk to ninja on release because at the time, it was more-or-less better than monk at the time; A flat 20% boost to all damage (including magic), much lower overall TP usage, and better maintenance of dps at the time (we were still on T9).
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    Snow Requiescat
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    My friend swapped from monk to ninja on release because at the time, it was more-or-less better than monk at the time; A flat 20% boost to all damage (including magic), much lower overall TP usage, and better maintenance of dps at the time (we were still on T9).
    Would anyone play it if it wasn't op. This reminds me of a moba game and them nerfing new champions 1~2 month after coming out.
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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Quote Originally Posted by RylaiBluecrow View Post
    Would anyone play it if it wasn't op. This reminds me of a moba game and them nerfing new champions 1~2 month after coming out.
    It wasn't really op at the time, it just looked like it was.

    Poisons giving 20% damage? Doesn't matter because the damage numbers were balanced around that existing.
    TP costs low? Yeah they were a little low, but the adjustment brought them pretty much in line and it wasn't a huge adjustment
    Damage? I believe Aeolian Edge got a 5% nerf a little time after release. So one ability was very slightly too strong. So OP!

    The attraction for me was the ninjutsu requiring individual mudra input. I thought they could do some cool stuff with a system like that, and so far they have (though they could do more).
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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    It wasn't really op at the time, it just looked like it was.

    Poisons giving 20% damage? Doesn't matter because the damage numbers were balanced around that existing.
    TP costs low? Yeah they were a little low, but the adjustment brought them pretty much in line and it wasn't a huge adjustment
    Damage? I believe Aeolian Edge got a 5% nerf a little time after release. So one ability was very slightly too strong. So OP!

    The attraction for me was the ninjutsu requiring individual mudra input. I thought they could do some cool stuff with a system like that, and so far they have (though they could do more).
    The combinations are very cool.
    The system allows NIN to have 13 Job abilities vs the 5 everyone else gets.
    It's really a good way to include an interesting mechanic, provide a wider variety of abilities and still reduce button bloat.
    That's one of the main reasons I play NIN, in addition to the magic-melee hybrid as well as being able to glamour swords.
    Still waiting for SAM though.

    They're doing a similar design with things like the AST cards and the new stances as well, I think.
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    Last edited by Allyrion; 06-03-2015 at 02:17 AM.

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    Dat_Jynx's Avatar
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    Jynx Tatsuo
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    Was MNK on FFXI then SAM and NIN. Pretty much the same on FFXIV. I'm currently waiting on SAM also. Hoping they keep it as a DPS like they talked about before.
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    Vanilla Pancake
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    My friend swapped from monk to ninja on release because at the time, it was more-or-less better than monk at the time; A flat 20% boost to all damage (including magic), much lower overall TP usage, and better maintenance of dps at the time (we were still on T9).
    I hate your sig so much... always fall for it. >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedAntares View Post
    I hate your sig so much... always fall for it. >_>
    I think Rice moves it too, just to mess with us.
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