I'm not even going to bother tanking 24x raids in 3.0

[Kassiekane]

If you look at the childish aggro battles we have now in the Crystal Tower series, its only going to get worse with the addition of Dark Knight. We all know its going to attract all the wrong people, and I feel sorry for any potential good DRKs that are going to be dragged down by its reputation.

However, my main concern is with Ninja's new skillset that manipulates enmity. Because the aggro wars aren't troublesome enough, now ninjas have an ability to increase the size of the tank's ego.

No thanks, I'll be running monk through Floating Continent, and laugh while the Derp Knights fight over aggro while adds are killing healers.

Edit:

I don't know where you guys get that I'm part of the aggro fight and/or have a hard on for being MT. I'll give an example:

The raid is now on King Behemoth, and tanks have been silent up to this point. So we're just standing there waiting for someone to pull, and I say "I'll get IG". So whatever, after a few more seconds of waiting a tank pulls KB, and the fight starts. When IG spawns, I voke it and pull it out of the middle. But NOPE, here comes superego voking it off of me and keeps it in the middle while KB readies meteor, and everyone dies. Fine, superego can tank it then. Next attempt, I'm minding my own business at the tower clicking off the charges, and once KB readies meteor for the second time, IG isnt dead, and superego runs behind a meteor with like 10 people and the comet is destroyed before meteor hits. A bunch of people die, and IG is running around cleaving everyone, as the other tanks gave no shits. So I pick it up and pull it away before the 3rd meteor, and intentionally died to meteor as IG wasn't dead and I was not going to wipe everyone unlike superego.

But here's the twist: I was blamed and votekicked. Now tell me this is not going to get worse in 3.0, and I'll tell you you're naive.

[SpookyGhost]

Business as usual.

Though I will note if you decide to queue as tank for the 24 man raid, you'll be one less aggro fighting tank you'll have to see, and that might be better than queueing as DPS and getting murdered by the aggro fighting.

Also, speaking as someone who only queues for CT series as Monk these days: gl with positionals when tanks are fighting for hate.

[Rbstr]

After Labyrinth I stopped tanking them as well. Mostly because the healer and even DPS queues were shorter!

[Viviza]

It's only a fight if you're participating.

The real problem if two tanks are fighting is that you have one fewer dealing with adds, while the boss spins around. Let the tank pull and keep threat if he wants. Go deal with other things, or dps.

[elemental10]

There's a lot of that happening now even without DRK.

And what do you mean by DRK attracting the wrong kind of people? Are they the people who chose to go NIN because they look cool? You know, some of those people end up being really good at em.

I'm on my WAR zeta and if the NIN can go about 80% of my agro bar, I'll consider him to be very good and outputting as much dps as he can, as he SHOULD. And there are those who even have trouble juggling their two single dots and spam Huton all day long, even with Kasatsu.

The main issue of agro steals? I'd say them let them fight over it. Positionals? Just stay at one place and some of your hits will hit them. Better than running around and trying to keep up, just dish damage out as usual.

ANY new classes will always get as much flak because of some people who can't play them the "right" way. My advice? Get through them as fast as possible, and move on. If you're feeling generous, then go ahead and advise them. If you're REALLY good, then write a guide, and spread the word.

[Seku]

Let the two fight it out or be a decked out tank and make sure to keep it. The real problem imo isn't that but more so alliances putting their "Deeps" over simple mechanics and taking out the other two alliances in the process. Aka LoTA and WoD[to a lesser degree]. Hopefully they allow for alliance kicks.

[Starkbeaumont]

why do you have to be the MT anyway? just OT then if you see that one of the other 2 (or even both) tanks wants to get all the attention. I have seen enough wipes just cause non of the tanks would bother picking up and/or grouping up adds.
Queuing as tank doesn't mean you gotta take the boss. and going DD want solve the issue for you anyway, since you'll still be facing those tanks fighting for hate.

[Marxam]

Apart from the long tank queues which annoy me as that was one of the few perks we get for doing such a tankless job, people fighting over aggro are gonna suffer the most since they don't even know how to stance dance. If I pull I keep it and make sure I keep it. If I don't pull then I just ot but with my current gear I almost always steal hate. 30 str, full str accessories, 390 sks (for the max 9 gcds under berserk) and tons of det/crit always ensure I have no competition over aggro.

To the people who attack the boss and are NOT main tank and NOT in sword oath or off-defiance, consider picking another class because I see pain and frustration in your future.

[Reynhart]

You can just be the smart tank that doesn't consider off-tanking to be below him

[Kuwaitum]

Its only going to get worse with the addition of Dark Knight. We all know its going to attract all the wrong people, and I feel sorry for any potential good DRKs that are going to be dragged down by its reputation.

Thank you, I feel the same way. We'll be lacking the Quality for a good portion of time 'till the DRK and the other two new jobs fad/trend is gone.