No new SMNs for SMN?

[Lorielle]

Random thought...Why can't Summons just be called to do out random actions for your DPS. They can be ranged DPS in that fashion. Hell, they can even chain. Garuda does one action. Ifrit does another. Ramuh does another. So on and so forth? You can Also DoT or whatever if need be. Food for thought.

[Yukiko]

I find it hilarious that people are getting all excited for one skill based on name alone. You're throwing around "Akh Morn" like it's the holy grail of all things summoner when in reality all it does is provide a single AoE nuke which Black Mage has had in their arsenal since the start of the game. If they gave us some 200 potency attack called 'Megaflare' you'd probably all be going crazy over that too based on the name alone.

It's worth noting that in the demos, these jobs were level 60 and had very high level equipment on. Everyone drooled at the damage, but it's really not all that impressive. If you follow the same chain for a Black Mage's Flare (a spell which is already darned close to Akh Morns power already), Black Mage still comes out on top by that point. And furthermore, it's on a charge system so you can't even cast it freely, unlike BLM.

So, terribly sorry I'm not as excited for Akh Morn as the rest of you. It was foolish of me to assume a summoner would have anything to do with actual summoning.

If it is true, that you do about 2000-3000 burst damage every 30s, its worth to to become excited.
Its a little stronger than Fester. It is ment to have a 30s Fester, then 30s Akh Morn rotation, that makes it about 5000-10000 burst damage for 60s (not counting the DoTs and Egi-damage)

[Jamez82]

Glamour egis coming to Mogstore.

Please look forward to it.

[Asierid]

So, terribly sorry I'm not as excited for Akh Morn as the rest of you. It was foolish of me to assume a summoner would have anything to do with actual summoning.

I missed the part where you are using primal aether to summon manifestations of said primals (and able to change their appearance soon).

Or the fact that the pet is a chunk of your damage, plus the abilities that increase it's usefulness.

Or the fact that you are, again, channeling the aether of Bahamut to use some of his abilities.

XI is down the hall, WoW is to the left across from it. Welcome to 14, where the way SMN works differs from either game and the dev team seeks to keep it that way.

Hell, be glad you got balanced and stuff/stats for SMN actually got buffed. They could have given you a new egi and stuck you with the current state and said deal with it. Course, with the way these forums work, they would celebrate over that...

[Sapphic]

While smn is kinda fun within the context of XIV. I agree with the OP, I wanted more of a traditional SMN from FF, not this dot hybrid. I cant think of a single FF game where smn plays even close to how it does in XIV. I certainly dont think of poisons and slow death when I think of classic FF summoner. But at this point Ive accepted how the job is and given up hope of something more akin to FFXI. Ill settle for pet glamour as long as they look decent.

There is no such thing as a "classic" FF summoner as each Final Fantasy did Summoner differently. This is just FFXIVs version.

[Tagihi]

only dragoons get buff every patch. SE needs to give other jobs some love.

wonder why.....

[Nestama]

Random thought...Why can't Summons just be called to do out random actions for your DPS. They can be ranged DPS in that fashion. Hell, they can even chain. Garuda does one action. Ifrit does another. Ramuh does another. So on and so forth? You can Also DoT or whatever if need be. Food for thought.

Because lore reasons. Every Primal has their own agenda (sentient beings) and summoning them is pretty much killing the very planet you're trying to protect. There's also that whole "crates upon crates of crystal shards of {element}" thing to take into consideration. At best, you'll get to have a Primal appear for LB3. At worst, you use Megaflare or something.

[Averax]

Random thought...Why can't Summons just be called to do out random actions for your DPS. They can be ranged DPS in that fashion. Hell, they can even chain. Garuda does one action. Ifrit does another. Ramuh does another. So on and so forth? You can Also DoT or whatever if need be. Food for thought.

[Spellbinder]

Because lore reasons. Every Primal has their own agenda (sentient beings) and summoning them is pretty much killing the very planet you're trying to protect. There's also that whole "crates upon crates of crystal shards of {element}" thing to take into consideration. At best, you'll get to have a Primal appear for LB3. At worst, you use Megaflare or something.

Might just be me, but I think you're making an assumption of what Lorielle is asking for. Replace the word "summon" with "egi" and it's a perfectly reasonable request. You don't need "crates upon crates of crystal shards" to call out an egi for an attack, do you? Although it would definitely change the dynamic of the job.

[Delily]

Might just be me, but I think you're making an assumption of what Lorielle is asking for. Replace the word "summon" with "egi" and it's a perfectly reasonable request. You don't need "crates upon crates of crystal shards" to call out an egi for an attack, do you? Although it would definitely change the dynamic of the job.

How would that be different than BLM? That would turn the summons into glorified casting animations, like they are in most of the console games.