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  1. #11
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    Duuude007's Avatar
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    I'd like you to please support that with evidence.
    What kind of 'evidence' would you like? Or are you just being snarky. If a person is trying to jump/rush through the quests to reach Ishgard, they aren't concerned about dialogue or lore. Hence rushing.
    2.55 is more robust questload than average for MSQ, but it is also doable within 2-3 hours if you "rush" it.
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  2. #12
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    Raist Soulforge
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    It's not hard to already get well over a 200% xp boost already. When you toss in chained xp and food as well, you can get up close to 300% easily.

    You already have the easy button, they don't need to give you a switch that takes to max level right away.
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  3. #13
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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Raist View Post
    You already have the easy button, they don't need to give you a switch that takes to max level right away.
    Why do people feel the need to rail against this when nobody has asked for it.

    Also chained exp? Seriously? Basically every method of gaining exp is better than grinding mobs in the open world. Pretty much all of them.
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  4. #14
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    Why do people feel the need to rail against this when nobody has asked for it.

    Also chained exp? Seriously? Basically every method of gaining exp is better than grinding mobs in the open world. Pretty much all of them.
    Chained exp is not limited to open world combat.
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  5. #15
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    Also chained exp? Seriously? Basically every method of gaining exp is better than grinding mobs in the open world. Pretty much all of them.
    You get the chained exp bonus whenever your party kills a mob with an equal or higher level than you and you gain XP. It does happen in dungeon.
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  6. #16
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    Raist Soulforge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    Why do people feel the need to rail against this when nobody has asked for it.

    Also chained exp? Seriously? Basically every method of gaining exp is better than grinding mobs in the open world. Pretty much all of them.
    It is already stupidly easy to level additional jobs as it is. You get a 50% bonus all the way up to like level 45 or so JUST because you have that first job leveled--somewhere in the last few levels it drops to like 20%. Then there is rested bonus. Food bonus. Moogle cap and such that give that extra bit at the start. Leves, fates, dungeons. And EVERY time you chain enough mobs of appropriate level you get chained exp bonus on top of that--it even applies to gathering as well. Oh yeah.. and let's not forget the challenge log and your hunt logs as well. You can get your first 10 levels in virtually one sitting without ever stopping to upgrade your gear. Think the last time I started a new job I got 6 levels just working my way from one Central Than entrance to the other one.

    Experience point gain is the LEAST of our problems.

    So yes... asking for an already extremely easy process to be made even easier by an additional 50% at this point should be scrutinized at the very least.
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    Last edited by Raist; 06-01-2015 at 08:54 AM.

  7. #17
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    Twilite's Avatar
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 80
    The problem is mostly 1-15 if you burned all your side quests. That still takes a while. Afterwards you can just ride dungeons to 50 if you want.
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  8. #18
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Why do you even have levels when you have a story quest you must do?

    I would remove levels entirely from the game. They don't need to be in story MMOs. You get better gear by going through the story.
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  9. #19
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    Miranda Madison
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    The story rewards don't reward left sided items, furthermore, they don't give you full sets. Dungeons are the way to go, hence leveling.
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  10. #20
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilite View Post
    The story rewards don't reward left sided items, furthermore, they don't give you full sets. Dungeons are the way to go, hence leveling.
    You shouldn't need to level. You have to do the dungeons from the story anyway and you need gear from dungeons to progress through the story. Thus levels are pointless for the game with a well designed story like FFXIV. You still need to do the dungeons.

    You can remove levels and give low level dungeons unique appearance gear that you can glamour and also give them special materia's as well.

    Story quests do give you a lot of gil, which you can use to buy left sided items. Of course if they are rich they can buy the best ones on the market. However I doubt a new player could do that.

    Leveling is just a dying and stupid archaic system popularized by an MMO which hates its customers.


    However, since its not going away. I think it should be faster.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 06-01-2015 at 02:18 PM.

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