Poll: Gear progression, horizontal or vertical?

[Nektulos-Tuor]

It would still be a royal pain/impracticality having to farm/carry different sets of gear to accommodate Boss A vs Boss B vs Boss C.



What issue exactly does this solve?

Your statement essentially breaks-down to "only raiders should have character growth, casuals be damned."

No.. That is an entirely different thing. If you need different sets for "EACH" encounter then that ISN'T A CHOICE. That isn't horizontal progression. You should want to slot yourself with YOUR style of play. That is horizontal progression.

Gear designed that way, is horrible.

Gear Designed for Example like this:

20 Vitality
10 Parry
10 Block Chance

vs

20 Vitality
10 Strength
10 Critical Rate

THAT is a choice. You don't need multiple sets of that, because you can do it both ways. One increases defense more whilst the other increases offensive a bit more.

Or

% Chance on damage taken to deal X damage to target.

vs

% Chance on damage taken to heal yourself for X.

vs

% chance attacking to deal additional damage

vs

% chance attacking to heal yourself

vs

% chance attacking to heal yourself, and deal damage (less from both.)

Another choice. There can be hundreds of ways to make it the same but different choices. There should be no "BEST" choice. There should be "What do you think you can do?"

Materia Upgrades though is a very bad idea though, ew. Less they are very powerful like runes.

[SDaemon]

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An illusion of choice. There will always be a piece of gear that is mathematically and viably superior for an encounter when you diversify stats bonuses and fight mechanics. One fight might require you to focus on that block stat you suggested, another may favor more crit. If fights are not designed that way than the system will provide no benefit to what we have now. And with that in mind, you will have to carry those 2 pieces of gear and use them for their appropriate fight.

Saying you can use either the block or the crit in every situation is just you trying to lie to yourself.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

An illusion of choice. There will always be a piece of gear that is mathematically and viably superior for an encounter when you diversify stats bonuses and fight mechanics. One fight might require you to focus on that block stat you suggested, another may favor more crit. If fight are not designed that way than the system will provide no benefit to what we have now. And with that in mind, you will have to carry those 2 pieces of gear and use them for their appropriate fight.

Saying you can use either the block or the crit in every situation is just you trying to lie to yourself.

That won't matter. Even if gear is mathmatically better. It is still a play-style change if you include effects and things that change the way your spells work.

Even someone 5% better, someone can play 30% better with one way and still be better then someone who has a small statistical advantage. People just Hoard stuff because they are unsure of themselves.

On EQ2 we had that choice since TSO. I always chose the offensive gear, even in high end raids. I didn't change for anyone. Sure, I was harder to heal. However we killed things faster as a trade-off.

[SDaemon]

That won't matter. Even if gear is mathmatically better. It is still a play-style change if you include effects and things that change the way your spells work.

Even someone 5% better, someone can play 30% better with one way and still be better then someone who has a small statistical advantage. People just Hoard stuff because they are unsure of themselves.

It will most definitely matter.

It means you will need to collect every viable piece of gear for every encounter. Instead of hording gear for glamour you would be doing it in order to have the piece of gear tailored for the encounters you'll face.

Lots of unavoidable raid wide damage in Boss A? Bring that gear that offers heals upon damaging. Frequent tank buster moves on Boss B? Tank should bring that gear where boss damage = self heals or damage taken = boss damage. Situations like these will be commonplace.

The inventory bloat is real.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

It will most definitely matter.

It means you will need to collect every viable piece of gear for every encounter. Instead of hording gear for glamour you would be doing it in order to have the piece of gear tailored for the encounters you'll face.

Lots of unavoidable raid wide damage in Boss A? Bring that gear that offers heals upon damaging. Frequent tank buster moves on Boss B? Tank should be bring that gear where boss damage = self heals or damage taken = boss damage gear. Situations like things will be commonplace.

But its unreliable to rely on it too much because its a % chance, it could never work for that unavoidable damage. Thus its not made to be used with it, its just a little helpful, not required.

o' Of course it does matter! However, what if it never procs? Its a Percent. You don't rely on it! You don't need it to kill the boss, its helpful!

[SDaemon]

Of course it does matter!

Exactly

/10char

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Exactly

/10char

Yes, but if you chose the damage on proc gear. That is more threat and damage, what if the boss uses aoes and everyone has % proc on damage gear? That is massive dps to the boss killing him faster so he does less tricks.