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    If you are low ilvl and the tank still get big pulls, then its the tank fault, dont panic. Just tell him to not pull so much mobs at once. Maybe he will tell you that you are a n00b, a bad healer etc, but the real problem is the stupid tank thinking that all the healers in dungeons are ilvl~130.

    Just get more newer pieces of armor and gl!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana View Post
    If you are low ilvl and the tank still get big pulls, then its the tank fault, dont panic. Just tell him to not pull so much mobs at once. Maybe he will tell you that you are a n00b, a bad healer etc, but the real problem is the stupid tank thinking that all the healers in dungeons are ilvl~130.

    Just get more newer pieces of armor and gl!
    This. Back when everyone used to speed run WP I had a tank pull too much and we died. The DPS wanted him to keep pulling big and he said no, I also responded by saying I didn't think I had the gear to handle that and...that was it. If they die or you go OOM I'd say something afterwards about it. They can act like an idiot if they want (some will) but if you don't have the gear then you don't have it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxhieixx View Post
    This. Back when everyone used to speed run WP I had a tank pull too much and we died. The DPS wanted him to keep pulling big and he said no, I also responded by saying I didn't think I had the gear to handle that and...that was it. If they die or you go OOM I'd say something afterwards about it. They can act like an idiot if they want (some will) but if you don't have the gear then you don't have it.
    Why do you assume it's the tanks fault.
    Give me any item level that can enter at and I will heal it fine regardless of a 10 pull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Staris View Post
    Why do you assume it's the tanks fault.
    Give me any item level that can enter at and I will heal it fine regardless of a 10 pull.
    item level maybe, but you can easily fudge the ilevel requirement by equipping iLevel 120 gear and put on an iLevel 35 weapon. Results are gonna vary.

    A good way to tell it's the tank's fault is to check if maximum single target healing potential < damage tank has taken. For WHM, the maximum single target healing potential comes from spamming cure II while Divine Seal, Presence of Mind, and regens are active. If, under these conditions, the tank is still losing more health than you can put out, then the tank has either A) severely overpulled based on his own or the healer's gear level, or B) had no idea how to use cooldowns properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Staris View Post
    Why do you assume it's the tanks fault.
    Give me any item level that can enter at and I will heal it fine regardless of a 10 pull.
    This was me healing on SCH and was so long ago that it is possible I could have made some mistakes. I didn't say this was the tanks fault, I really liked that he understood he couldn't pull that much after the wipe and stopped. Others keep trying to do it which can be annoying, especially if the healer is a low ilvl, which was my point. If the healer is barley over the requirements, tank does some huge pull, dps aren't up to par (usually because they don't know what they're doing), it's going to be a wipe. You can't just run in and pull like that. You can't assume everyone has the experience, gear, or even knows what they're doing.
    Also, did they have ilvl requirements back then? I used to SR with friends as WHM but even then we didn't do the "typical" pulls since me and my husband (the tank) weren't as geared.
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