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  1. #131
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    i would pay for the story line... some sorta flashback where ARR's infrastructure is used but we are seeing the 1.X story. They could even flesh out a couple more details they might have wanted to explore like the scions being incarnations of the twelve or more details into the summoning of bahamut, or even set up some future story for 4.X. I almost see it like the FFXIV opening cinematic (fighting the marlboro leve) where he flashes forward then back.
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    "Try not. Do or do not. There is no try."

  2. #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Would I play it over ARR? Unlikely, though both find themselves in a coincidentally similar situation right now - short of remaining content worth doing. Quite often the flaws in ARR I'd already pointed out to some degree in 1.1 (the soonest I played was pre-Yoshi but post-bug fixes) and 1.2.
    For 2.0's purpose, the lull in stuff to do is because of the expansion; there were quite a few comments about how the period of time between 2.55 part 1 and 3.0. It's not that bad, WoW had a year's wait between the culmination of MoP and the start of WoD. I also think Yoshi mentioned the game takes in to account people will periodically close accounts while waiting for new content, then reopen them.
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  3. #133
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    Kai Ulric
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    I didn't read the whole thread - so I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but I had an idea like months and months ago that I'd mentioned on the forums.

    They have the 1.0 world (like it or hate it - it existed lol) and I though that it would be really interesting to somehow play with the whole Echo idea we have - and have a story line where your Echo takes you back and forth between now and before the calamity to try and change things.

    Of course, we know it can't be changed, but it would allow people to see what the 1.0 world looked like and there could be a whole story line built around it. Maybe clues to stop the present issues going on in the game are hidden in the past and were destroyed by the calamity, now we must go back into the past using our echo to try and find what we need to save the now.

    It was just an idea - but a way people who wanted to see the 1.0 world could. I mean they have the world, all they would have to do is reformat it for this new system they are using. Plus it would add a huge area t0 the game, plus give us another whole story line and allow people to see what the world was like who didn't get to play 1.0 so they can see where the camps used to be and how things were before hand like the silver and golden bazaar etc... - but it would have the graphics/settings and play-ability of 2.0.

    It was just an idea I had, that I still like.
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    Last edited by KaiKatzchen; 05-29-2015 at 11:06 PM.

  4. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaiKatzchen View Post
    They have the 1.0 world (like it or hate it - it existed lol) and I though that it would be really interesting to somehow play with the whole Echo idea we have - and have a story line where your Echo takes you back and forth between now and before the calamity to try and change things.


    It was just an idea - but a way people who wanted to see the 1.0 world could. I mean they have the world, all they would have to do is reformat it for this new system they are using.
    It's not that easy. Remember, SE is business, they tend to keep on hand only what is needed, meaning that more than likely the 1.23 version of the game no longer exists. Why would it? It costs money to hold it, it's better to get rid of it and recoup the costs. Even though the 2 games appear similar, I believe they were written with different games engines, so they'd need to redo all the 1.X game play and cut scenes in the newer engine.

    Additionally, even if that version did exist, they'd have to expense out new hardware. The current data centers do not have huge amounts of storage and compute sitting idle, they've been scaled to meets the needs of the game.
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  5. #135
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    Eisen Gramul
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    Hyperion
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    I'd like to revisit it again. Maybe take some good comparison screens.
    But the game having no future takes a bit of the wind out of the sales.
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  6. 05-30-2015 01:55 AM
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    double post, how'd that happen o.O

  7. #136
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    The character models looked much better (butts, thighs and hips for everyone!!!), i loved the amount of physics applied to the movement, i would have enjoyed belts being visible, and omg that OST.

    Everything else though? Nah. I love how dense and alive the areas feel in ARR, but no amount of beautiful Uematsu music could make me enjoy a run from point A to point B take a legitimate 30 minutes of voidspace just for the sake of the game feeling like its large.

    Also, while the movement animations were very nice with the applied physics, there are simply too few of them. Watching videos of 1.0, it's like a max of 3 animations are used for literally every ability in the game. You couldn't jump, which makes videos of people walking in areas like 1.0 coearthas a painful thing, stopped in their tracks by a crack in the ground. And finally, while the environmental graphics present are more refined looking in some areas than in ARR, the game has this really empty and dead feeling about it. Almost as if the world isn't being populated as well because of performance restrictions.

    The visual effects in ARR are also astronomically better. 1.0's visual effects looked really copy-pasta and inefficient (which commonly lag the PC of the person playing) while in ARR, most enemies and attacks have tailored effects that just look so much more smooth. A good example would be the Ifrit fight in 1.0 compared to 2.0, or literally any self-buff that a class uses on itself. (featherfoot, rampart ect).
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    Last edited by Edellis; 05-30-2015 at 06:32 AM.

  8. #137
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    It was proven fact that no people wouldn't still play it. SE left 1.0 up after the updates for it stopped for about a month after the final save point they said that they would leave it up longer if people are logging in while they wait for 2.0. At most there were like 1-3 people on if you logged in 1.0, SE then took it down because almost nobody was playing it at all.
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  9. #138
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    I gotta say, that reddit thread was a wonderful trip down memory lane. To a T.

    The payment methods were a pain too. SE outsourced credit/debit card payment to Click-and-Buy, a 3rd-party, UK-based company, and apparently a shady one. A week after I signed up so I could sub to FFXIV, the credit card company calls saying they stopped someone in London from using the card info to buy plane tickets and lodging... So, had to get the card re-issued, and had to put in fake info for a second payment option on Click-and-Buy so it would let me delete my personal info (my "new" address was 1313 Mockingbird Lane).

    So I had to go out, get a Ultimate Gamer Card, exchange that for credit online, exchange that into Ultimate Pay credit, then exchange that into Crysta so I could sub to the 1.0 mess. I was done before my first month on that was up..
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    "Ul'dah can keep their dusty markets, and their streets paved in silver and gold.
    Limsa Lominsa keep your pirates, and your ships covered in musty mold.
    My loyalty lies with Gridania, with the Moogles and the tree spirits of old." -The Forky Conjurer

  10. #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seig345 View Post
    So I had to go out, get a Ultimate Gamer Card, exchange that for credit online, exchange that into Ultimate Pay credit, then exchange that into Crysta so I could sub to the 1.0 mess. I was done before my first month on that was up..
    Not sure if it was different on a region-by-region basis but I always just paid for crysta directly via ultimatepay using paypal.
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  11. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikki View Post
    Not sure if it was different on a region-by-region basis but I always just paid for crysta directly via ultimatepay using paypal.
    It may have been before I got with the times and familiarized myself with Paypal, but even if I had, I'd still have been wondering why I couldn't just use paypal to buy Crysta directly, or heck, subscribe to the game itself via Paypal.

    Mainly though it was just that I'd have never expected that subscribing to a Square Enix game in and of itself would lead to the credit card info getting stolen. Sure, that was Click and Buy's fault, but by using them for their credit card processing, that issue kinda reflected on SE as well. I was elated in 2012 when they announced the option to subscribe directly through them again.
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    "Ul'dah can keep their dusty markets, and their streets paved in silver and gold.
    Limsa Lominsa keep your pirates, and your ships covered in musty mold.
    My loyalty lies with Gridania, with the Moogles and the tree spirits of old." -The Forky Conjurer

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