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    Quote Originally Posted by Geesus View Post
    What about those llike myself that like to do ALL of it? That want to try and find many of the things offered in the game fun? So I'm sort of broke so I can't afford a majority of the items due to the retarded prices but yet can't craft everything.
    If you want to do everything you're definitely hardcore and I bet you're spending enough time online to do everything, it's not impossible, I've got a lot of friends with all the classes (DoW/M/H/L) 30+ and multiple 50s, it's not something impossible to achieve.
    If you don't have all that time you just have to make choices, while other people are grinding 3 combat classes you grind 1 combat, 1 DoH, 1 DoL (as I'm doing and you can tell it from my sig).
    But you just can't pretend to do EVERYTHING in an easy way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcide View Post
    If you want to do everything you're definitely hardcore and I bet you're spending enough time online to do everything, it's not impossible, I've got a lot of friends with all the classes (DoW/M/H/L) 30+ and multiple 50s, it's not something impossible to achieve.
    If you don't have all that time you just have to make choices, while other people are grinding 3 combat classes you grind 1 combat, 1 DoH, 1 DoL (as I'm doing and you can tell it from my sig).
    But you just can't pretend to do EVERYTHING in an easy way.
    I never said in the 23 pages posted as I write this reply I wanted ANYTHING easy. And I also posted I'm not harcore as I have 2 kids I raise on my own so game play time is essential. I don't want it easy mode or press 1 button make everything. I disagree with the guilds being removed from the process as that has always been there but the need for items above the rank of the actual piece being made was out of line. I also do what you do as it makes sense for me as well.
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    I am concerned they have gone too far in simplifying crafting, and are now making the crafting classes an afterthought, with the focus solely going to be on the dow and dom classes. Worse is this change suggests that the gathering classes are going to be even less useful , something I enjoyed doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geesus View Post
    I never said in the 23 pages posted as I write this reply I wanted ANYTHING easy. And I also posted I'm not harcore as I have 2 kids I raise on my own so game play time is essential. I don't want it easy mode or press 1 button make everything. I disagree with the guilds being removed from the process as that has always been there but the need for items above the rank of the actual piece being made was out of line. I also do what you do as it makes sense for me as well.
    I'm sorry if it sounded like that, but I didn't mean that YOU in particular want an easy way, I just meant that these changes are leading to an easy way for everyone.
    I agree with you that a recipe revision was needed, some of them were too complicated and also the fact that you need a r40 piece to synth a r20 recipe of the same DoH is insane (tho it does make sense from an immersion point of view, but sometimes you just have to ignore the immersion for common sense >.>) but from the exemple they gave us I think they went a bit too far...

    I apologize if it sounded like an attak to you, but I just wanted to point out that even with the current system it IS possible to do everything, you just have to chose and the fact that you can't be at the same level of those that are focusing on only one discipline is totally resonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcide View Post
    I'm sorry if it sounded like that, but I didn't mean that YOU in particular want an easy way, I just meant that these changes are leading to an easy way for everyone.
    I agree with you that a recipe revision was needed, some of them were too complicated and also the fact that you need a r40 piece to synth a r20 recipe of the same DoH is insane (tho it does make sense from an immersion point of view, but sometimes you just have to ignore the immersion for common sense >.>) but from the exemple they gave us I think they went a bit too far...

    I apologize if it sounded like an attak to you, but I just wanted to point out that even with the current system it IS possible to do everything, you just have to chose and the fact that you can't be at the same level of those that are focusing on only one discipline is totally resonable.
    or remove immersion and common sense as they r doing, u try and made a weapon blade and glue em together with the same skills and tools, tell me which is harder, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcide View Post
    I'm sorry if it sounded like that, but I didn't mean that YOU in particular want an easy way, I just meant that these changes are leading to an easy way for everyone.
    I agree with you that a recipe revision was needed, some of them were too complicated and also the fact that you need a r40 piece to synth a r20 recipe of the same DoH is insane (tho it does make sense from an immersion point of view, but sometimes you just have to ignore the immersion for common sense >.>) but from the exemple they gave us I think they went a bit too far...

    I apologize if it sounded like an attak to you, but I just wanted to point out that even with the current system it IS possible to do everything, you just have to chose and the fact that you can't be at the same level of those that are focusing on only one discipline is totally resonable.
    Oh no need to apologize. I knew you weren't attacking me but I just came back in game a week ago so my profile is a bit misleading. So I threw the extra info there just so you knew.

    I know I can't be the same level as others with more time or who concentrate on just DoH/L/crafting but a game is suppose to include EVERYONE and right now, as with most changes in game or RL, people buck the sytem. it's cool as eveyone one is entitled to their own feelings and opinions and to each, they have validity. I just don't think the changes in the receipe need to cause an all out revolution from the crafters or hardcore players either. I hope that SE DOESN'T take the challenge of any portion of the game away from us...ALLL players of each Rank and Class but, you do have to make adjustments when the players in mass ask for or demand change.

    I think that what many have prompted for is some sort of poll or question and answer approach as a VERY viable solution to this and ALL future changes in game. If SE is willing to listen I'm sure these requests for additional research on behalf of the Devs IS what is needed.
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