So, even Wildstar is going f2p...

[Colorful]

Yoshida already said it won't happen.

Also, Wildstar was a dying MMO, FFXIV is incredibly successful compared to the many other MMOs that have tried the P2P model.

[SecretCrowds]

Yoshida already said it won't happen.

The thing is, the producers of these MMOs that went f2p said the same thing. Look at Rift. They said, "we will never go f2p" and 6 months later, went back on it. Plans change over years. I am just hoping that this plan will never change for FF14.

[SakuraMidori]

It only ends up happening when a game is dong very bad FF14 is doing very well right now so for now it's not in the cards

[Spawnie]

It only ends up happening when a game is dong very bad FF14 is doing very well right now so for now it's not in the cards

lol your siggy made me laugh more then i should of

[ShenDrakar]

It only ends up happening when a game is dong very bad FF14 is doing very well right now so for now it's not in the cards

lol your siggy made me laugh more then i should of

lol your siggy made me laugh more then i should of [2]

[SakuraMidori]

lol your siggy made me laugh more then i should of [2]

Now i fixed it and made the lala a pic of my sisters toon :P she can kill me later

[Solaria_Luna]

Now i fixed it and made the lala a pic of my sisters toon :P she can kill me later

Now that is even funnier because Lala's do look like children...her pose in that pic is perfect.

I played Wildstar at launch. After one month, I was bored and unsubscribed. They really hyped that game and had did well in terms of box sales. The game was not that bad, but it was obviously not ready for release. I blame NCSOFT more for this than Carbine. The guys at Carbine were kind of cocky came off like douchebags at times and this along with an unfinished game, caused a TON of people (like me) to not subscribe at all or drop out after one month or so.

I hate to see any big name MMO fail, because it hurts the genre as a whole, but the REAL issue here is perfectly clarified by Wildstar. It COULD have been a good game at launch, but development teams like Carbine have to basically sell their souls to publishers like NCSOFT. This is why Wildstar went free to play, NCSOFT would have pulled the plug, but figured this was the last ditch effort to regain some of the money they had sunk into advertising and publishing. Business has a way of getting in the way of game development when they push for an early return on their investment or demand that a game be pushed out months before it is truly ready to meet some quota or deadline for marketing.

FFXIV and WoW do not have a publisher to "pay back". They basically use their own money to fund and develop the game. This is why you will probably never see these games change the subscription model to a "ftp" system.

I agree with this...I swear XIV and XI are part of the reason why Square-Enix continues to make Single Player Final Fantasys. (as well as keeping these games going - which is the bigger reason)[I bet if it weren't for the MMO's Final Fantasy would have ended at X/X-2. Though I bet it keeps the whole department alive.]

[Fahzewn]

Look at Rift. They said, "we will never go f2p" and 6 months later, went back on it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but they also pretty much fired the guy who was against the FTP model. Was either Daglar or Elrar, don't remember which. But one of the them was very against FTP but wouldn't you know it, they canned him and shortly after...FTP.

[SecretCrowds]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but they also pretty much fired the guy who was against the FTP model. Was either Daglar or Elrar, don't remember which. But one of the them was very against FTP but wouldn't you know it, they canned him and shortly after...FTP.

Hmm. Actually Scott Hartsman was the chief producer of Rift and said that," We will never go F2P" line. He left due to personal reasons but rejoined later as Trion CEO to oversee the F2P. Daglar took over as chief producer and still is. Elrar was fired, but mainly because Trion lacked money and "restructured". A lot of others were fired too since Trion could not afford to pay all those salary.

Edit: Hmm... Maybe I should clarify this. When I say Trion could not afford to pay all those salary, I mean that they were losing money in general and not that they actually missed out on paying salaries. That would be a serious accusation which I doubt would be true anyway.

[gorezilla1]

The thing is, the producers of these MMOs that went f2p said the same thing. Look at Rift. They said, "we will never go f2p" and 6 months later, went back on it. Plans change over years. I am just hoping that this plan will never change for FF14.

True enough, but the quality of content in XIV is superb. And if that doesn't convince you, remember that XI lasted this long as p2p so XIV will probably last just as long.