The new jobs / Ishgard city access - yes, again.

[Gumbercules]

I wouldn't be surprised if they already have something in mind to change it to where you can enter ishgard at lvl 30. (MSQ still gated behind 2.55) Would fit in too since that's around the lvl the MSQ sends you off to coerthas, don't really need to worry about lvl 30s doing content outta place in the new zones too since they would just get two shot.
On that note though, and i do think its a mistake to some extent, i do not think this will be the case at release. It might be something that gets patched in later on (hopefully soon) Still one can always get a surprise :P

As a current player i know that i can get 1-50 pretty fast just doing the MSQ with hunting log, FATEs, Guildhest first time bonus etc and be done withing a week or so then tack on another week to do the rest up to 2.55, but a new player isn't gonna know this, or will just consider having to wait 2-3 weeks to play a job they want unacceptable.

Not really for/against to be honest, more of an observation :P Mostly just got my attention cuz its currently being discussed in the MMO-C megathread XD

[Nanaho]

I wouldn't be surprised if they already have something in mind to change it to where you can enter ishgard at lvl 30. (MSQ still gated behind 2.55) Would fit in too since that's around the lvl the MSQ sends you off to coerthas,

MSQ Sends you to Coerthas, but if you actually read the story youll find out Ishgard is closed. if its all of a suddenly open to everyone without the pre req 2.55 story behind it, none of the story would make any sense. you would be going around killing primals and running around ishgard without any issue, but for some reason the characters in the MSQ are all saying it's closed. that's mixed signals right there if i ever saw it.

As a Lore standpoint, Ishgard being locked behind 2.55 makes a ton of sense, they would have to re write a massive chucnk of the story to make it work, otherwise it just makes no sense.

[BroodingFicus]

As a Lore standpoint, Ishgard being locked behind 2.55 makes a ton of sense, they would have to re write a massive chucnk of the story to make it work, otherwise it just makes no sense.

I understand locking the MSQ for 3.0 behind the gate. I even understand Ishgard itself being locked. But it would not have taken much thought to make the jobs available. Most of the other jobs (bard, warrior etc) were given to you by a single individual through some strange circumstances/coincidence. Why could the same not be done here? Even as a player who has a few characters high enough to access the new areas and the like, I still feel a bit displeased to have purchased an expansion where I cannot be the new classes on the character I want without progressing through the story again.

I also can't really get behind the 'its for lore' reasons wholly because...well we are about to see a huge invasion of Au Ra who are technically supposed to be the PC and therefore have apparently been running about doing all these amazing things with no one noticing horns, scales etc. So that right there technically blows all kinds of things out of the water as far as the MSQ goes. But sometimes its necessary because the MSQ is not the only aspect of the game that should matter in an MMO. We are there to make our own story as much as we are to be told one. Personally if I wanted to be locked down by one narrative all the time I would play a single player game that I don't pay a monthly subscription for. Yes most MMO's have an overarching plot but I have never been as restricted by one as I am in FFXIV. Dungeons etc are all caught up in it. Often times leveling I found myself levels above the dungeon I should have been doing but could not access it because I had not paid enough attention to the story. Unfortunately I had been too busy off having fun without it. At times it feels rather like a nagging parent telling you its time to come inside right in the middle of a really amazing game. Which FFXIV is on most occasions.

Love the game, will continue to play but I won't be advising people to join the game based upon anything HW is promising.